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Old 09-17-2008, 09:54 PM   #1
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Scaffolding Question, Distance From Wall


Never could figure this one out, but is there some sort of industry standard when leaving the correct distance from the scaffold to the work area?


For Brick & EIFS installation.

Im about 16" from the wall right now, thats wall to frame center. What distance do you leave your scaffolds?

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Old 09-17-2008, 11:23 PM   #2
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The width of an outrigger plus a couple inches.
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The width of an outrigger plus a couple inches.
bout 26"
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I want enough room to get my level past the walkboards if needed. Otherwise a couple of inches so any dropped mud doesn't collect on the walkboards and stick to the wall. Like Karl said about 26" when using outriggers. Keep it plumb so you have a consistent 26' as you go up.
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Keep it plumb so you have a consistent 26' as you go up.
That is a great point. I remember when I was a hoddie I would always have a level and tools to set scaffolding, to the ridicule of the other hoddies of course. If you use a level and set the first layer of frames right you won't have any problems no matter how far you go up.

Remember when laying block and then a brick vaneer to use adjustable outriggers and add another walk plank (so it is then three plank wide for the block, then reduce to two for the brick)

I worked on a job once in Tacoma where the head hoddie didn't do this for a 7 scaffold high project.....he ended up tying straps to the scaffolding and pulling it out 8 inches with the forklift.....worked pretty good but I would never try doing that myself.
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And remember, masons won't reach more then 24" for ANYTHING.......
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JonM,
I'll reach farther than 2 feet for a beer!

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I'll reach farther than 2 feet for a beer!

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Just see how far he'll reach when the tab comes...
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26" from wall? Seems very far to reach. We are comfortable at 16, atleast thats what we set todays scaffold at.
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That is a great point. I remember when I was a hoddie I would always have a level and tools to set scaffolding, to the ridicule of the other hoddies of course. If you use a level and set the first layer of frames right you won't have any problems no matter how far you go up.


Yep where I live if they found out that you didnt use a level to set the base you would surely get fired. And if someone had an accident and found out you didnt level then you may as well just start selling you house, car and ass because those lawyers know how to charge. There like plumbers but with pens.
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26" from wall? Seems very far to reach. We are comfortable at 16, atleast thats what we set todays scaffold at.
then hang the walkarms on the scaffold to work from :-)
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When we use to have a really high wall (residential, 6 bucks uneven ground), I would block it out then use walkboards as the base for the scaffold-no luxurious pumpjacks for us!
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26" from wall? Seems very far to reach. We are comfortable at 16, atleast thats what we set todays scaffold at.
You're right. Two 8" planks. You do need a bit of clearance for the end of your outrigger and a small gap against the wall making it around 18". That's what I use normally. Using a third plank as suggested when facing with brick would make it 26".
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I use metal planks plus outriggers and 24" works best for my crew and I. I also have longer outriggers and adjust depending on the situation at hand and almost never stand on wood foot planks! I'm a small outfit but, I pride myself on my staging and set-up. I have 12' and 16' put logs and all the bells and whistles to go with them, not to mention 10', 7' and 5' planks and cross braces for all those odd set-ups. When I apprenticed years ago I never felt safe on wood and half-assed metal staging with ladders here and there. With 140' of staging and everything one needs to stage the small to good size job correctly and safely, I feel confident! Did I mention we set everything with a level to start with?!!!

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Just see how far he'll reach when the tab comes...

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Rask, I've seen putlogs before, but don't know how they're used. Educate me.
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art,
Putlogs (8', 12', 16' and 22' lengths) can be used to span between two towers and then place a tower in the middle and go from there. If you have a chimney in a funky area on the roof you can put a tower up and span over with the putlogs and then build a tower on the backside of the chimney where you might not get any sort of staging set-up. Easier seen than explained. LynnLadder has a site I think and the pics show what can be done and I certainly am much more creative with the stuff than they might approve of. They also sell it used at much better than new price 'cause it aint cheap!

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Oh, and Karl, Denise is constantly bitching 'cause I reach for the tab more than I should!

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Never could figure this one out, but is there some sort of industry standard when leaving the correct distance from the scaffold to the work area?


For Brick & EIFS installation.

Im about 16" from the wall right now, thats wall to frame center. What distance do you leave your scaffolds?

obviously this is not a union job.

Google OSHA for results or just contact your insurance co , they would like to here from you about your latest risk.
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obviously this is not a union job.

Google OSHA for results or just contact your insurance co , they would like to here from you about your latest risk.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owad...6.451(b)(3)(ii)

seems to me 18inch max so my 16 is safe.
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Actually it depends what trade your with. they give us plasterers 18 inches but everyone else only gets 14 inches.

Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(3)(i) and (ii) of this section, the front edge of all platforms shall not be more than 14 inches (36 cm) from the face of the work, unless guardrail systems are erected along the front edge and/or personal fall arrest systems are used in accordance with paragraph (g) of this section to protect employees from falling.
..1926.451(b)(3)(i)

The maximum distance from the face for outrigger scaffolds shall be 3 inches (8 cm);

The maximum distance from the face for plastering and lathing operations shall be 18 inches (46 cm).
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