Pricing Stone Walls?

mason22

how would you price a stone wall with the stone already availible from the customer the wall is 130 feet long both sides he wants stone and 3 feet high i was goin to charge him 25 a square foot instead of 35 because he has the stone

CJKarl

All depends on how tight you want the wall and a bunch of other things.

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mason22

just going to be standered 3/4 inch mortar joints but idk if he wants blue stone caps that will obviously be more but just to lay the stone i think im chargin 25 a square idk wut to do for the footing yet

CJKarl

What state are you in?

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mason22

im in milford ct

Tom F.

$25 sf sounds like a lot to me. I pay about $12sf for cultured stone material included, and about $12 sf for real stone labor only. East TN/SW VA prices.

BC Maryland

$12 for cultured stone.... materials included! Way to low how do you stay in buisness. For ground level work 20-25 per sq.ft is competitive in Maryland for real stone and $9-12 for cultured stone labor only. Scaffolding the material up can increase the cost by 25-35% more.

stacker

oklahoma prices
natural stone labor only $10-12 a sq ft
adheered veener labor only $3.00 sq ft

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mason22

ya honestly how can u stay in buisness thats way to low standered real stone you get like 35 dollarss a square cultured 20 -25

stacker

between myself and my other mason(who is slow but getting better)and one laborer,we can do 300 sq ft of adheered veener.now at 3.00 a foot,that is 900.00 labor.i pay out in labor 25.00 an hour.8 hour day,$200.00paid out.....in my pocket for my labor,wear and tear on my equipment,gas...$700.00.i can live on that.
for natural stone.we can lay about 100-200 ft,depending on the type of stone.on the short side of $10 a ft,thats 1000-2000 a day with same labor costs going out.
i think i can eek out a living with that.

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CJKarl

MILFORD? Howdy neighbor! How do you like dealing with CT Stone? I hate going there.

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CJKarl

Oh, and in CT I wouldn't go lower than $35 sq.ft. I just paid $4.45 for diesel yesterday.

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stacker

i can understand why you guys would have to charge more.
here in my part of oklahoma gas is 3.21 a gal and diesel is running 3.91 a gal.
overhead costs are a lot more also.wages paid to your men are more than i have to pay here,housing ect...

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mason22

ct stone is ok for some things depends what they have in but most of the time i hate dealing with them especially there yard workers hey cjkarl you ever need a help on a big job le tme know

stuccosteve

Stacker;
I tried your numbers for work in our area and came up with this rough idea

300 sq. ft.@ $3.00 ft labor only-------------------------------$ 900.00

two masons @ $20.00 ea. per hr. 16 hrs-------------------------320.00
one laborer @ $15.00 per hr. 8 hrs------------------------------ 120.00
Matching taxes & insurance ------------------------------------ 170.00
Overhead, equipment, repairs,rent& permits/licenses--------------125.00
Gross profit $ 165.00

I guess your production rate is based on a straight forward job,
I know when it gets more difficult say higher or lots of corners
like a big chimney you will need more than $3.00 ft.

wesmartyn

100 sqft per day? I've never come close to that with natural stone.

xcmason

That's what I was thinking, I'm definatly not worthy.

raskolnikov

Wes said it all day long!!! Apples and oranges for sure!

D.