No one wants a big project - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Cole82 · 04-22-2009, 10:42 PM

Well I am trying to line up a company to sub out a basement to. I can dig it if need be, but would rather just have them dig footings poor build walls poor and strip.
Well here is the kicker that no one in my small area wants to deal with. 14' wall 1' thick and 400running feet. The owner doesn't want anything else but the foam forms.
No one in my area wants to do it. Town of about 400,000 should I try and cordinate from a further larger city? I'm no wall guy never done one before. I am stuck and the time line is short to begin with.

Cole

**genecarp** · 04-22-2009, 11:07 PM

Stay with, yes go outside your immediate area, with this economy i cant believe you are having this problem, in my neck of the woods that job would get swept right up.

Cole82 · 04-22-2009, 11:15 PM

Wow it's midnight out on LI you going to work tomar?

I have family on LI in the patchouge area.

Well we are in a time warp here the recession hasn't really hit that hard here. Last summer we had a huge flooding problem the whole eastern IA area flooded so most every contractor is busy here. I keep getting the same thing if it wasn't foam I would do it.

dakzaag · 04-22-2009, 11:24 PM

If you can run a level, you can do it. But I don't blame you for looking for help on the first one. Keep asking around, I wouldn't be suprised if someone jumped in.

You can use the guys here to help with what to watch for. As a block layer, the ICF's seem like a very simple migration, but then there is always that little trick that makes everything go just right.

Good luck to ya laddy!

**genecarp** · 04-22-2009, 11:42 PM

[quote=Cole82;663391]Wow it's midnight out on LI you going to work tomar?

I have family on LI in the patchouge area.

HAD some minor surgery today, search (stent removal) on this site, that will explain all,,,I will be laying low tommorrow, good luck to you, G, patchouge is 35 minutes from me

Cole82 · 04-25-2009, 05:31 PM

Well I got someone to submit a bid

Shopped it around town to several people and no one wanted to takle icf 14' tall, with a brick house sitting over it.

Cole82 · 04-28-2009, 05:48 PM

I got word from Discovery they will be out to film the project.

Chris Johnson · 04-28-2009, 11:33 PM

Is this an ICF house you are looking for?

Send me the drawings, IA is a 2 day drive but if you can wait till June I would do the ICF portion for you.

What are the licensing requirements in your area?

Cole82 · 04-29-2009, 06:55 AM

We are moving a 2.5 story double wall brick house. 5-6 miles and about 760 tons est. built in 1883 it is a historic home that couldn't be torn down.

A wine/vinyard company bought it and is moveing it. The 14' basement icf wall is for forklift clearance and 1000gallon storage tanks.

License is no big deal for you it would be a one time fee for out of state contracter. No bonding needed or test to take just pay and get a license.

**genecarp** · 04-29-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole82

We are moving a 2.5 story double wall brick house. 5-6 miles and about 760 tons est. built in 1883 it is a historic home that couldn't be torn down.

A wine/vinyard company bought it and is moveing it. The 14' basement icf wall is for forklift clearance and 1000gallon storage tanks.

License is no big deal for you it would be a one time fee for out of state contracter. No bonding needed or test to take just pay and get a license.

Photos please, sounds like a fun project. G

Cole82 · 05-01-2009, 11:10 AM

Well I got a company contracted to do the foundation. That is good news number one. It sounds like they want me to do the lime stone block work. That would be good for me.

Here are the pics

**ChrWright** · 05-01-2009, 11:27 AM

That's a big one.

How many sections are they moving it in? Are they stripping the brick veneer or trying to save?

Cole82 · 05-01-2009, 11:51 AM

The whole thing at once!

Here is the guy moving it. http://www.jeremypattersonhousemoving.com/
It will be the longest move by any brick structure. No removing of bricks or anything really pick the whole thing up and drive away.
I will take some close ups of the details of the house. It really is incredible. All the white painted stones all have engravings on them. The door thresholds all are stones with slope cut into the center then is square again where the brick sits on it.
Once section of the road has to be widened by 8'

Cole82 · 06-27-2009, 10:03 PM

Well it has begun they started cutting the foundation. Also removed the porches and braced the roofs. We are shooting for the 15th of july for the actual move date. I'll post pics monday.
Side note the concrete sub I had lined up flaked out so I am going to be helping the owners with the icf foundation.

lukachuki · 06-28-2009, 07:29 AM

nice house

crazy project

would love to see pics of the process

Don't forget to leave the bad tuckpointing in the original location.

Good Luck.

**joasis** · 06-28-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole82

Well it has begun they started cutting the foundation. Also removed the porches and braced the roofs. We are shooting for the 15th of july for the actual move date. I'll post pics monday.
Side note the concrete sub I had lined up flaked out so I am going to be helping the owners with the icf foundation.

I am only a phone call away if you need tech advice. If I wasn't busy, I would have jumped on it like Chris. Once you go ICF, there isn't any other way!

Chris Johnson · 06-28-2009, 09:09 AM

Where is the ICF supplier during all this? The ICF contractor has flaked...and the homeowner is going to do it himself, will this be the same attitude when other subs flake out?

I don't want to scare you, but this is concrete being held vertically, if that wall is out, it stays out, ask J about what he just had to fix.

Cole82 · 06-28-2009, 01:32 PM

Thanks guys guys I will have some questions once my part gets rolling.
The owners have an excavation company that has done 4 icf houses. They have all been square though this is far from what they have done in the past. I was first brought in to do the icf foundation and or find a icf sub. Then the sub went out of the picture. They then decided they would save some money and deligate a couple of there guys to me that have ICF experience.
The owners also have a vinyard that is taking off and bought this house and a bunch of land to expand the wine biz.

**joasis** · 06-28-2009, 04:38 PM

I don't know why,

but I would really be leery of "a couple of guys with ICF "experience"",.....

The Bristow project was done by a supposedly "experienced" crew, and it was out on every dimension....not only that, it was about 2 feet off of the plan dimensions, like they used the house plan for the inside of the walls, which were not plumb.

I would be on site, if I were you, with a plate level and steel tape, double checking EVERYTHING they do, just as I did for subs I don't know.

Cole82 · 06-28-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by joasis

I don't know why,

but I would really be leery of "a couple of guys with ICF "experience"",.....

The Bristow project was done by a supposedly "experienced" crew, and it was out on every dimension....not only that, it was about 2 feet off of the plan dimensions, like they used the house plan for the inside of the walls, which were not plumb.

I would be on site, if I were you, with a plate level and steel tape, double checking EVERYTHING they do, just as I did for subs I don't know.

Oh trust me this whole thing has me wondering if I should even try this, but I want to get some ICF experience under my belt.
I have been in contact with a guy that has done a couple house moves. He has be giving me a couple good hints on how th get the house to line up. Because it for shure wont be square. I'll try and post a pic of the OG house blue prints.