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Old 11-27-2017, 08:05 PM   #1
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New Stone Work - Your Honest Opinion Please!


Hello,

I recently had stone work done on a new house. Please take a look and give me your honest feedback.

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Old 11-27-2017, 11:14 PM   #2
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My two cents worth....

Pic 1...stonework too high, looks out of proportion

Pic 2....obnoxious vertical line to left of small upper window in center of pic. Expansion joint????

Pic 3....joints look a tad wide. I prefer tighter laid stone work.

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Looks like low bid, most likely illegal alien, cheesy tiny mixer. marginal scaffolding....

Stones smeared, Bond, James Bond maybe..... that inside corner, I could use to climb to the soffit, then CONTROL JOINTS on Peon masonry........I don't recall many CJs on old school peasant hovels...

Late Neo- Classical Multi-cultural tuscany/ southWest no-Where style/design---not all the crappe stonework's fault, some the drunken window placement/sizing...... Hilly lots are for young couples and crazy old people, not very salable in most markets, spend the extra 10KS for flatter lot next time......I ran out of breath just counting the steps......

Left over stones perhaps bought to "save" money????

Exposed stone ledge = cheap skate, Yes, we did use some masonry, but ran out of $ and or Taste.....Cover less wall, but start BELOW grade so it looks more authentic.

D + the plus is for using full bed materials....

Low bid, maybe a little lower then normal booty.

This is the house you "forget" to put your shingle in front of.....

The good news: it will be easy to do better next time, if you can sell this eyesore at cost.

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A very poor choice of cultured stone, too irregular which makes it look wavy and downright ugly.

I've laid a lot of phoney stoney and real rock. That style of stone is one I would refuse to lay, it's just too ugly due to the irrgularites of it. And it's run up way too high on the front of the home.

The stone is all beat up and scratched bady, and they didn't accent around the windows first and then fill in around them. Slapped up in 2 days would be my guess. Really bad, sorry.

What did ya pay for that ?

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OP got what they paid for - guarantee that.
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What part of the country is this in? Looks like it was just thrown in, they semi look like they knew what they knew what they were doing..ie no boxes or long stacked joints but it looks like very little care for what it looks like just get it done.
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A very poor choice of cultured stone, too irregular which makes it look wavy and downright ugly.

I've laid a lot of phoney stoney and real rock.
Thats not cultured stone.
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I'd say it went up to high also. Other than that, looks OK to me.
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Thank you all for your honest feedback. I just received a written commitment from the sub-contractor to remove all of the stone from this home and replace it. More details and updates follow.
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I actually logged on to CT to start a thread about this, and ask the pro's advice over at the DIY site, I guess I don't need to now.


As I said over there, I think it looks terrible. The design is fine IMO, the execution is severely lacking. Just because the stone come's in "that" shape doesn't mean you should/have to lay it in "that" shape......
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Good deal. It's horrid.

Is that real rock? Wth all those scratch marks all over it, it looks like the cultured stuff.
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Good deal. It's horrid.

Is that real rock? Wth all those scratch marks all over it, it looks like the cultured stuff.
If you look close, there's angle irons over the doors & windows, 4" returns at the jambs, and lots of full stone laying on the ground and even on the scaffolding.........
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I actually logged on to CT to start a thread about this, and ask the pro's advice over at the DIY site, I guess I don't need to now.


As I said over there, I think it looks terrible. The design is fine IMO, the execution is severely lacking. Just because the stone come's in "that" shape doesn't mean you should/have to lay it in "that" shape......
why would you post on another site about a job that is not yours?
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Hello,

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This one section highlights the execution... if you can't get it right on the flats...

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why would you post on another site about a job that is not yours?
I figured the guys here that know what they're looking at would enjoy it.
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Yea I am enjoying it! Looks like the Masons literally threw those stones on top of each other as fast as they could...jagged stone obviously will not be perfectly straight and square however you at least want to get them somewhat level...and I can bet almost nothing got leveled there

good thing is if that does get torn down stone is pretty easy to clean and reuse usually


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I've never worked with stone or subbed it out. I don't see much in my area. Anyone care to share an example of a similar material expertly executed?
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I've never worked with stone or subbed it out. I don't see much in my area. Anyone care to share an example of a similar material expertly executed?
Any of Bytor's posts.
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If you look close, there's angle irons over the doors & windows, 4" returns at the jambs, and lots of full stone laying on the ground and even on the scaffolding.........
sorry and thanks. I can't enlarge pictures on my phone.

Back to the original poster. May I ask what they charged for this work?

As for the shape of the stones ? Before even starting, I'd have went through them and tossed a lot of them out and seperated the better ones into some type of eye-appealing layout. The problem is it that it appears too many of them are oddballs which would force a guy to have irregualar grout lines to make up for uniformity. I'm no mason but I find those rocks butt-ugly and a challenge to lay. With so many nice styles of rock these days I'd have picked a better selection. And hired someone with experience. Now it's all gotta be tore off and re-done. Damm.

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