Natural -VS- Cultured

elementalist

I have been pricing veneer for a job in Florida, and I am curious about some opinions on natural versus cultured stone and the differnce regarding cost effectiveness versus labor. I have been quoted anywhere from $6-10/ sq ft for flats and $9-12 for cultered corners and somewhere around $3.50 for natural brick-like stacking stone. It seems to be a no brainer, but what about the labor? Is it going to take me twice as long to stack the natural stuff and make/cut corners(no pun intended), thus costing me more in the long run? Or do I go with more money for material and less work?

Any thoughts?

Tscarborough

Natural is easier to lay, since it can be worked with natural cuts and brick hammer beatings. L corners are a must though, if you have outside corners.

elementalist

They are all outsides. They are square columns to outline a property. The structures are concrete block 4'x4'x6' tall with a 1' band around the top and bottom. The homeowner wants a ledge look in the middle and I suggested a flat look on the bands. He figured we would do the cultured in the middle and some natural on the bands, but why not just do all natural and make the cuts? What kind of tool do I use for these corners? Tile saw, grinder, Concrete(Chop)saw...like cutting pavers? Does this make up for the material costs?

ruskent

Real stone is harder to cut than pavers.

Tscarborough

What type of stone?

tkle

If you saw cut your corners they won't match.They will be smooth and shiny.Use a brick set.Sometimes making or finding corners can be expensive.Is the natural stone thin enough for your purpose or would you end up cutting it?
I'm always one to go for the natural,however 9 out of 10 times the fake will be cheaper.I'm getting El Dorado for $4.54 for flats and around 6.50 I think for the corners.

elementalist

tkle,
Can you tell me where I can get those prices? Is it in Florida? How about freight? The stone I would use is thin enough for cladding, but then how do I address the corners? I was thinking of cutting a 90 on the back side like the cultured stuff.

tkle

Southern Cal.Contractors discount.You might ask your supplier.The only variable would be cost to manufacture and transportation.
I've used El Dorado in many high end houses.Customers love it.It's cheap compared to Corning.Corning seems to be a bit easier to lay.They are a more exact product,In my opinion this leads to a less realistic looking finish.It's too perfect.Looks fake.