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Old 12-14-2017, 02:44 PM   #1
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Lock Hasp Into Old Soft Brick.


I need to install a lock gasp I to some old brick. Unfortunately it is right on a corner. I don't want to damage it, or have it damaged too much If someone wants to pull or pry on it.

What are the best fasteners toggles/lag shields, etc. I picked up some of these, but I'm not sure if pounding the pin in is a good idea.



This is the corner. I need to go through the stucco then into the brick. The mortar is a super soft sandy mix. I could rub it out with my finger.





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Those anchors you have are great but probably not for that situation. Safest bet is tapcons. They will strip out though if you're not real careful about putting them in. May take a little threading in and backing out. Epoxy anchors would work too.

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I'm thinking epoxy may be my best bet. Tapcons are my go to in most situations, but I don't want them to be able to be backed back out. maybe tapcons with epoxy in the hole?

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Can you fix a 1/4 inch steel plate to the wall first, and then drill through for the fixing?
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That looks really crumbly, try a tapcon, if it doesn't bit put a zip tie tail in the hole.
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Flip hasp by removing pin, & rotating mount side so it is behind wall/door. Reinstall pin w/ locktite, epoxy, JB weld, & peen over end asap. before cure.
Then use your hammer drive fastener so it expands up & down. The brick will be harder than the mortar, & will not break down as easily.
You could go one step farther by adding the hasp onto a steel plate inside storage area.

I'm thinking the hasp will only do so much anyway, & regardless of what you install, will have limited security.
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it is just to keep idiots out. There isnt really any reason for people to go back there, except to dump crap, or take a dump I suppose. It's also in a semi exposed area.

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I ended up putting the hasp on the sidewall with 1/4 inch tapcons and a small but of epoxy on the threads, then put epoxy in the Philips slots for fun.

This made it so if it is pried on, it should only damage the wood and not the brick. Any other way, and you could smack the hinge with a hammer and bust it out of the brick.

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Now you tell me. :grin:

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I'm thinking epoxy may be my best bet. Tapcons are my go to in most situations, but I don't want them to be able to be backed back out. maybe tapcons with epoxy in the hole?

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My go to for epoxy in those situations is JB Weld.

I usually carry a stick of that quick-set of Plumbers Epoxy in the truck too.

It can be formed, shaped, filed.
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If you can access the back side of the jamb, install two angle irons over the corners with holes drilled for two or three galvanized/S.steel threaded rod/ long carriage bolts. Paint to match brick, maybe do the hinge side......

Weld on hasp hardware...

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