Help With Pricing

henry0016

I am looking at pricing a building. It is a wage job i was wondering if anyone could give me a idea of what the wage is in Rhode Island. And what you would charge for per block price for labor and grout only no materials.

Any Help would be great

Subia29

not from the R.I, but what are the wages for a mason & tender?

henry0016

Its a privilin wage job mason are 49 Hr Laobor 37 hr

concretemasonry

What kind of masonry construction?

Is it exposed?

Is it more than 50,000 block?

How high and thick are the walls?

How long are the walls and are they cut up?

How much grouting?

If you are buying the materials and hiring a labor contractor, you may pay more since you will not buy materials as good as a regular contractor, just based on the volume. The contractors that will bid labor only are probably limited to lower quality work.

I had a salesman tell our production manager that he just sold the block to build a big box store. The production man then asked him what he should make tomorrow----?

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Dick

Engineer, designer and consultant recently active domestically and internationally on construction and design in about 35 countries.

Tscarborough

I wish they would tell me that CM, we are 10 to 12 weeks out on production (with 4 plants and 9 lines).

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concretemasonry

We only made 16,000,000 block a year or 50,000 block per day in one 2-machine plant. Our maximum inventory for the one plant was 4,000,000 block going into the selling season and out minuimum go down to 1,000,000 at the end of the season (400 different items). - About 60% standard units and 40% specialty. We were always sold out in advance, but never told anyone unless we wanted to be independant on pricing, but even higher prices never really have an effect on the demand. It made it difficult to avoid the bad jobs we never wanted to supply, because invariably a good high volume contractor willing to pay the price got the job and wanted the block.

When we got the bad, troublesome custom jobs we wanted to avoid, unfortunately, the regular large contractor (not builder) that built his business on regular block and relied on us had to worry a little bit, but inventory management of standard units and good drivers/salesmen got us through. After the crisis, the "formal" salesman had to go out with the coffee, donuts and pop to appologize for being an hour late.

We never had a job single that took more than 50,000 block in 5 days (a colored K-Mart). The key is inventory management so you have saleable inventory and are then able to take care of the colored special jobs like the one the salesman sold.

We rarely sold to contractors that bought the materials and hired labor contractors. They would not pay our price and we relied on real mason contractors.

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Dick

Engineer, designer and consultant recently active domestically and internationally on construction and design in about 35 countries.

Tscarborough

We finally convinced the plant that the 2 most popular "custom" colors should be stock, and that has helped a great deal (along with a liquid color system for consistancy), but I am still forced to make custom contracts for units that I sell in excess of 100,000 units per year. That is silly, but then I think a lot of how production is done is silly.

From 1994 to 2001, I outsold production every year (Which meant that I worked other products harder and raised my prices), and they recently bought another old worn out plant to take the heat off of lightweight production (by using it for heavyweight).

I will have to say that this company is very good to us and works miracles in production on a regular basis.

Over the years, I have passed on some very big projects because I was not willing to drop trou to meet their price and scheduling issues. I considered those "premier" projects to be smart bombs aimed at the competition. Let them tie up production and delivery for 10% GPM and constant headaches; I'll take 30% and apprecitation for providing great service on smaller projects.

Of course corporate often bitched about "losing" a million block job, but then, I lasted 15 years and the CEOs usually lasted 2 to 3.

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lund6771

Concretemasonry-

who do you work for?