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Old 12-05-2017, 04:51 PM   #1
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Im starting a chimney and a guy made these trusses (and all kinds of other beam work will be coming) by hand. Wish I got back before they were set
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:53 PM   #2
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Dont know why one is croocked, its not crooked on my phone lol

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Dont know why one is croocked, its not crooked on my phone lol
Click on it twice, is straightens.

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Jungle rules between subs? Or roll your own self General contracting by owner?

Blue Prints and a schedule......

CPM: Critical Path Method, File flight plan, fill tank, check plane out, then take off.....lower landing gear BEFORE landing....Etc.......

Tough to make money laying around wood beams you can't get dirty....Maybe build behind the truss stone veneer in panel(s) on ground/ or scaffold/ lower chimney base, Forklift/roll into place.

I'd try to lay it over wall with a helper/ apprentice on the other side of the for final positioning.

The timber rafters sans collar tie is nothing but trouble.

Is it me, or is the 90 degree angle a rare bird on this house? ICF is very hard to keep in spec plumb wise. Might be cell phone optics....

And as usual I see cubic yards of toxic smoke producing combustible insulation INSIDE the House.....why even go there? When will hybrid forming be considered bare minimum with foam forming residential?

Foam exterior walls aren't any more fire resistant, but, occupants on lower floors have some chance of survival, see Welfare Tower fire in England, ~50 dead.

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Quote: "Blue Prints and a schedule......"

Blue prints? I'm a pretty old man and never seen them on any job I've ever worked on. Us oldtimers call them drawings.
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Dang sonny, I must be a candidate for mummy rags then. I recall using them in the 70's.

Gotta admit it's been a coon's age or two since I heard the term though.
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Prints lol. They poured the butting walls today with 5 rows of steel sticking out without bent ends, without a stamp or consult.
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Dang sonny, I must be a candidate for mummy rags then. I recall using them in the 70's.

Gotta admit it's been a coon's age or two since I heard the term though.
I was just a flunky back in the seventies, they kept the "prints" locked up for the important people to look at
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Collar Ties are not required for this design of a King Post Truss.
If you have a look, there are 6 - 3/4 inch pegs holding the top ends of the rafters to the king post. Collar ties are used to prevent separation at the top of rafter pairs. It isn't going to happen on this truss configuration.
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I think 4th is referring to that large upper roof section, I don't see any ties on that.
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No need for collar ties there, either. The first floor ceiling joists serve that purpose.
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No need for collar ties there, either. The first floor ceiling joists serve that purpose.
Technically, they serve different purposes. The ceiling joists resist rafter thrust from gravity loads. Collar ties, or some sort of detailed connection at the ridge, resists wind uplift. An important distinction.
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They may yet still put ties in the main house as they are still framing it.
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Technically, they serve different purposes. The ceiling joists resist rafter thrust from gravity loads. Collar ties, or some sort of detailed connection at the ridge, resists wind uplift. An important distinction.
So many people confuse this issue...metal straps over the ridge perform the same duty.
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Just to throw my .02 in. Collar ties in order to be effective and meet code,need to be in the bottom 1/3 of the span. So,in effect,ceiling joists can and often do meet that requirement. Examples I can think of where there is not a need for collar ties are,trusses as shown and a structural ridge . Obviously,light 2 x ridges while they may be thought of as structural,are in essence not. One of the purposes of collar ties is to resist the thrust of the rafters exerting lateral pressure on the walls.

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