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What is the most frequent cause of Wood Door water Damage

Front Door water damage

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#1 ·
My client finished a renovation 2 years ago. A new front door was installed. The door is now damaged and rotted along the vertical supports on both sides of the door and sidelights. The lintel above the door was never painted and is rusted. Also, a contractor informed her about a "notch" which is supposed to be there to prevent the water from traveling back into the wall behind the brick. I see no notch. Someone else mentioned "weep holes" for her brick,...which I also do not see. She and I live in NYC.
She states she has had a myriad of contractors through there looking at the situation....many of whom are not sure what course of action needs to be taken.
Can anyone direct me on how to best assist my client?...And, how to find a knowledgeable craftsman to correct her problem?
 
#89 ·
I don't know about you guys, but I have a bad feeling that the paper is behind that angle iron above the door.:shutup: I'm thinking that there is no flashing pan under the door either.:no: Honestly, I don't put a sliver of paper behind the top brick or window flange either, paper over head flashing or window flange.:thumbsup: In all, those pics give me a funny feeling in my stomach.:sick:
B_Boop, I'm not so sure that at least one of those photos has not been tampered with.:detective: Some private investigations may be in order.:w00t::laughing:
 
#90 ·
There is no flashing other than the designer in the photo that you all are questioning the authenticity of. She is kinda flashy.:thumbup:

This door was installed using the brick molding that came with it. Then they tacked on the 1X casing over it, probably scribing as tight as they could to the brick. Any water running down the face of this area could easily get behind that set up and start pushing the paint off.

I think the Loneframer should saddle up and head on over to do a full blown investigation.
We can count on him to bring back all the photos we need. That guy loves them pictures.

How the heck did I get pulled into this mess?:whistling
 
#93 ·
There is no flashing other than the designer in the photo that you all are questioning the authenticity of. She is kinda flashy.:thumbup:


I think the Loneframer should saddle up and head on over to do a full blown investigation.
We can count on him to bring back all the photos we need. That guy loves them pictures.
Id love to get over there and strip that thing down and see the underlying moisture problem. Problem is, I'd only be able to devote a weekend to it and that just isn't enough time to squeeze it all in.
As for the photos, I like to be able to go back and reference them in the event that I need physical evidence for some reason.
 
#98 ·
Ok Cowboys!
Homeowner says the sill above the door was not replaced, although, I agree the color does look a bit diff. Also, she does not recall anything being done after that paper seen there with the door install, other than surrounding with brick and a wood frame trim molding. So u all think the door is ugly? I don't judge taste......but seems to be the general consensus?
I noticed, there is no leader and gutter from the overhang above...could that also be an issue?
Do any of you notice anything wrong with the bay window set up......while you're checking out these pics?
I still haven't figured out why all the helpful ones are so far away.....maybe b/c the close ones reading the threads are unwilling to step up.....so, they remain silent......Or,..........................they just have no clue! LOL
 
#114 · (Edited)
1- Loneframer......r u short of stature/ vertically challenged?......(reference the sand in face)
2- Gus....I understand. As, sadly, I too am of that sick nature.....why else would I like u all? And worse yet, enjoy watching...- Oh yes, car crash syndrome!
3- If you think I was not sure of his talent, WRONG. Those comments were a demure (woman's) way of trying to stimulate enough interest but not emasculate sufficiently to turn him off....to take the job! I unfortunately, can see his talent in how he assesses the pics....and his not minimizing all the potential, but prob not all presenting after eval,.....scope of the problem at hand...... Yes, loneframer, that was a compliment.
4- And finally.....(for this comment)---I did insult any new york mason sitting there and reading these threads.....without speaking up.
Because, they are just afraid, if they take the job, & screw it up, they'd be exposed to all their peers here. LOL
Can't blame a girl for tryin"
I Love the banter .....giving/ receiving and watching. Now b nice boys!---minds out of the gutter :)
Hope u had a great day... Boop be Doop!
 
#115 ·
1- Loneframer......r u short of stature/ vertically challenged?......(reference the sand in face)
2- Gus....I understand. As, sadly, I too am of that sick nature.....why else would I like u all? And worse yet, enjoy watching...- Oh yes, car crash syndrome!
3- If you think I was not sure of his talent, WRONG. Those comments were a demure (woman's) way of trying to stimulate enough interest but not emasculate sufficiently to turn him off....to take the job! I unfortunately, can see his talent in how he assesses the pics....and his not minimizing all the potential, but prob not all presenting after eval,.....scope of the problem at hand...... Yes, loneframer, that was a compliment.
4- And finally.....(for this comment)---I did insult any new york mason sitting there and reading these threads.....without speaking up.
Because, they are just afraid, if they take the job, & screw it up, they'd be exposed to all their peers here. LOL
Can't blame a girl for tryin"
I Love the banter .....giving/ receiving and watching. Now b nice boys!---minds out of the gutter :)
Hope u had a great day... Boop be Doop!
B_Boop, vertically challenged? I was 6' tall in 7th grade.:laughing: Levelled out at 6'2", although framing for 20+ years has compressed me down to 6'1".:mad: just joking about the sand in the eyes, although I keep my safety glasses on.:whistling
Gus has been very kind to me actually, at least he doesn't post before and after pics of me anymore.:rolleyes: Somehow I think that may change, sooner than later.:shutup:
I wish my operations were closer, because I'd love a shot at getting this right. Even if I could get up there, I could never talk the necessary guys into coming with me. Fortunately we are all working full schedules.
I hope things work out for your client, I hate it when curb appeal takes precidence over quality in the hidden details. What good is the beautiful brickwork if the house rots out and falls away from behind it?:furious:
 
#116 ·
U know.......I truly understand.....and if there was anything I could do to assist you in coordinating such a solution, I would. (order stuff, make calls, coordinate brick delivery, etc.) My husband and I do have 2 extra bedrooms to offer.....3, if we throw out our 17 y/o h.s. graduate a bit earlier than he expects! LOL:eek: (for a crew)
And, note.....I know some of the best places on SI to "order from"......and if it was good enough for my kids...it can be also for anyone else. Ah...just kidding, I'm Italian...can never get away without at least making great sauce! :lol:
Look...I know where u r...haha.....only 1 1/2 hrs away.....Sometimes we need to make concessions for someone who knows his stuff. (again, no pressure)
I am sure we will eventually come up, with an acceptable candidate to do her job. Time and patience. I just keep telling her to listen for the BUZZ words.:wallbash: BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.:detective:
 
#117 ·
Ah...just kidding, I'm Italian...can never get away without at least making great sauce! :lol:
Look...I know where u r...haha.....only 1 1/2 hrs away.....Sometimes we need to make concessions for someone who knows his stuff. (again, no pressure)
I am sure we will eventually come up, with an acceptable candidate to do her job. Time and patience. I just keep telling her to listen for the BUZZ words.:wallbash: BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.:detective:
Biggest problem i have is time. The project I'm on promises at least another year or more of 40 hours a week, then a 120 unit 55 and older community with a project management opp. after that. Can't burn that bridge.:no: Got home improvement project of my own going on in between also.:thumbup:
 
#118 ·
can u tell me about the 55+ community? what city is it in? condos/ homes?
name ...if u care to share......and how far from philli?
My daughter needs me to be 1/2 hr (not more) from philli...straight run from deptford to where ever I plop myself to philli in 30-40 min....
I'm not sure I want a 55+.....as I'm not...(spouse is)......but, like communities with ammenities.:whistling
 
#120 · (Edited)
This ones got potential for you. 5 buildings 24 units each. Riverfront property in Millville near the Arts District. Each building has a different recreation center. Theater, gym..........I grew up in Millville, old glasstown. It's going through some major changes for the better. First footing goes in this summer.:thumbsup: 50 minutes to Philly
 
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