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My client for whom I am building a custom home [9000 sf+] wants granite on the entire exterior of the house. Initially he wanted to go with half stucco and half brick or one of those completely but now wants granite over the entire exterior surface.

And yes it's going to cost a lot of money and he is willing to do it as he absolutely loves granite. The total area for which granite would be needed is about 4000-5000sf. I have never done something like this before.

How will granite hold up in such a scenario from the top to the bottom? I dont want to put granite just because my client wants it b'cos I dont want to give him any wrong advice. Granite is rock - so it should be as durable as stone or brick if not more. I dont know - maybe the labor to install it will be expensive but I have not searched into it.

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Never heard of granite wall covering how will it be shaped and sized and how will it be installed?

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And yes it's going to cost a lot of money and he is willing to do it as he absolutely loves granite. The total area for which granite would be needed is about 4000-5000sf. I have never done something like this before.
I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!! And done it...I assume you're talking about slab, not tile. It's slick as, ah well, I'll stop now.

As with all structures, depending upon the material, it needs to be built a certain way before whatever the surface is is slapped on. If you're the builder and aren't familiar with this, you better get.

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How will granite hold up in such a scenario from the top to the bottom?I dont know - maybe the labor to install it will be expensive but I have not searched into it.
Contact your areas granite/stone people. You don't know anything about it and they do. With a job this big, people will travel a bit to do it (and you want that if no one has done things like this in your area).
They can tell you how you need to build it so they can do it. If they don't, then they're not worth anything.

Ask if they've done this before. And no, tile doesn't count. Neither does setting vanities, no matter how many doo dads they have in their fab shop. Some can do all, but they're a few, so you gotta find them.
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Never heard of granite wall covering
Look at most government, hospitals and university buildings. Higher end residential units also have them, but lower, like on column wraps or entrance ways.
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The guys who do my Granite did a job in NY, complete perimeter walls and floor of the basement around the swimming pool and up the stairway, trim, inlays, etc the whole job was around 80k.
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It's a 9000 sq.ft. home, shouldn't the architect be figuring this out?
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Thanks for all the responses.
Yes, it is granite - sized 2ft x 1ft or 1ft x 1ft [based on availability] - about 1 or 1.5 inch thick . I am thinking it is kind of similar to a Travertine tile installation. And I will start looking around for folks who have done this before.

Granite,as said above, is used on a lot of hospitals, banks and offices. Unusual for a residential house - b'cos I am assuming it gets very expensive.
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The guys who do my Granite did a job in NY, complete perimeter walls and floor of the basement around the swimming pool and up the stairway, trim, inlays, etc the whole job was around 80k.

Are these the interior walls or the exterior of the house ? Italian Marble or Granite is used frequently here for interiors, flooring, pools , kitchens.
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It's a 9000 sq.ft. home, shouldn't the architect be figuring this out?
Sorry, not sure I understood your question. Why would the architect know about granite installers ?
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Hi, I don't know - maybe the labor to install it will be expensive.......
Seems more than a little likely.


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Sorry, not sure I understood your question. Why would the architect know about granite installers ?
I think the poster meant that the architect should be coming up with connection, seismic and rain-screen details. After the contractor is decided, any issues between the archy and granite guy could be dealt with through a series of RFI's through or cc'ed to you. It's not up to you to worry about the details of the granite. With a 9000 sq ft house, with 5000 sq ft of exterior granite, the budget better be high enough to hire experts
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It is not like setting tile, and it will have to be an engineered design.
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Seems more than a little likely.




I think the poster meant that the architect should be coming up with connection, seismic and rain-screen details. After the contractor is decided, any issues between the archy and granite guy could be dealt with through a series of RFI's through or cc'ed to you. It's not up to you to worry about the details of the granite. With a 9000 sq ft house, with 5000 sq ft of exterior granite, the budget better be high enough to hire experts
I will get in touch with my architect. We had initially planned for stone/brick or stucco. A house that was recently built here used ceramic tile as the exterior. Ceramic tile was alternating with stucco side by side.

I dont have an idea about exterior granite - but just curious- if laying a 2-3 inch stone can be laid over the entire exterior , why should a 1 inch thick granite be a problem - architecturally ? Yes, laying it will cost more labor - but structurally why should it be a problem if it is lighter and thinner than stone ? Pardon my ignorance here !!
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It is not like setting tile, and it will have to be an engineered design.
Can you please elaborate ? Thanks.
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In a quick synopsis, brick is not really laid over anything. It is laid next to, with a rain scree between the structure and the brick, and structurally tied to the building.

What you want to do is akin to huge and heavy (really heavy) tiles up.
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In a quick synopsis, brick is not really laid over anything. It is laid next to, with a rain scree between the structure and the brick, and structurally tied to the building.

What you want to do is akin to huge and heavy (really heavy) tiles up.

OK, now I understand what is being said. As I mentioned earlier , a new home was built recently with exterior being ceramic tile. Also, what is the consensus here on the Mexican Travertine tile ?
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Goggle "stone cladding systems".
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Are these the interior walls or the exterior of the house ? Italian Marble or Granite is used frequently here for interiors, flooring, pools , kitchens.
Interior of the basement. Granite 3/4" was used for the walls and trim, reg thickness for the floor.

If you doing upper levels in such quantity, you have to consider DL and LL, you should have an Engineer design structural load bearing members, because that is a lot of weight.
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OK, now I understand what is being said. As I mentioned earlier , a new home was built recently with exterior being ceramic tile. Also, what is the consensus here on the Mexican Travertine tile ?
Are you sure you're a builder?
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Are you sure you're a builder?
Especially on a home, strike that, mansion this big.
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2 cents worth, 1 or 1.5 inch thick?, seems like i be talking to the guy with the saw, i said thin sliced!!!, its just for looks does the term vernier ring a bell??

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