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Old 10-03-2007, 12:30 PM   #1
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Eldorado Vs Owens Corning


I just came across ElDorado's website, and all I can say is...wow!

Either they have excellent photographers, or their products really look a lot like real stone - very natural looking, and lots of cool designs!

What type of manufactured stone do you guys use? I've been using Owens Corning Cultured, but this Eldorado stuff looks great! How is it in price compared to Owens Corning?

Also, anybody have any experience with the thin natural stone veneer that has come out recently? It's supposed to be lightweight...how much does that stuff cost per square foot?

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Re: Eldorado Vs Owens Corning


Eldorado has a better photographer; pricing should be the same, and the thin natural stone can be higher or lower, depending upon the stone and your location.

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I think Eldorado is a bit rougher in the manufacturer.Corning slightly easier to install.When customers pick the stone,more often then not they pick Eldorado.When they see the price difference,they always pick it.When I pick the stone I pick it.It's cost effective and when the project is completed I think it has the most natural look.
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I think Eldorado is a bit rougher in the manufacturer.Corning slightly easier to install.When customers pick the stone,more often then not they pick Eldorado.When they see the price difference,they always pick it.When I pick the stone I pick it.It's cost effective and when the project is completed I think it has the most natural look.
couldn't have said it more exact.
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Eldorado stone is a rare treat to lay compared to cheaper brands like centurion stone (PITA). Been showing customers a house I did with Kodiak Mountain redi stack ledge stone. I was nervous when I found out how cheap it was, thought it was gonna be a PITA to lay, but it was surpriseingly nice. Comes in 4 inch to about 4 3/16 inch high & from about 3 1/2 inch to about 2 feet lengths with individual widths of ledge incorporated into each piece. looks really impressive. Also laid some ledge (individual pieces) of the same brand on a house. Did a fieldstone fireplace inside that house (same brand) with black mortar joints & poured a black hearth. Looks awsome! Doing a house now with the same redi stack that is 2,307 sq. feet. Bottom line, nice stone - nice price
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in 1977 my dad bought a franchise for original rock replicas,out of denver.we made two types of stone,cobblestone and fieldstone.in 1999 i sold my franchise to my brother in law,and he continues to make stone today,altho he only makes fieldstone.now i might be a little biased,but i feel ORR is looks closer to natural stone than either eldorado or o/c.
from the highway at 65 mph they both look good,but up close,they look fake.
my bro-in-law gets 3.50 a foot,while they both get closer to 7.00.i believe alot of it has to do with the molds and the way the color the stone.

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I'm paying 4.80/ft' for Eldorado.There are some local manufacturers that produce nice stone,but they're a little harder to deal with.ED and Corning have the websites so the customer can pick easily.
It all looks fake.Even real stone if done too perfect can look fake.The homeowners love it though.
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I'm paying about $10 a square foot in NJ for Owens Corning. How much would I pay, approximately, for Eldorado here?
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In Washington State, I just paid $7.64 per square foot for Owens and thatís street price.
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Eldorado stone is a rare treat to lay compared to cheaper brands like centurion stone (PITA). Been showing customers a house I did with Kodiak Mountain redi stack ledge stone. I was nervous when I found out how cheap it was, thought it was gonna be a PITA to lay, but it was surpriseingly nice. Comes in 4 inch to about 4 3/16 inch high & from about 3 1/2 inch to about 2 feet lengths with individual widths of ledge incorporated into each piece. looks really impressive. Also laid some ledge (individual pieces) of the same brand on a house. Did a fieldstone fireplace inside that house (same brand) with black mortar joints & poured a black hearth. Looks awsome! Doing a house now with the same redi stack that is 2,307 sq. feet. Bottom line, nice stone - nice price

How about some pics?
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In Washington State, I just paid $7.64 per square foot for Owens and thatís street price.
I'm paying close to the same for Corning.The price difference must be in shipping.
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I sell Owens for 5.15 to 8.00, and Eldo for 4.80 to 7.50, based upon stone type and (mainly) quantity.
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I like owens better because the color is all the way through. The last time i used eldorado you see the cement color is a piece chips. Now I offer buechel as an upcharge. Real stone cut like manufactured stone. No footing required
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I like owens better because the color is all the way through. The last time i used eldorado you see the cement color is a piece chips. Now I offer buechel as an upcharge. Real stone cut like manufactured stone. No footing required
that is a misconception.the only color that is all the way thru is the base color.the colors on the face are only on the surface of the stone.
when they make the stone,they will mix the cement to a certain color,lets say a cream base.to color the face of the stone,they add a powdered color and sometime a liquid color to the mold.then the cream based cement is poured into the mold.i dont know how owens do their colors,but when we made stone,our face colors,were mixed with portland cement and silica sand,to ensure they would adheer to the stone and not rub off.
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all I can say is that I have noticed that if the owens chips it is far less noticeable that with the eldorado
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Are there usually a lot of chips on the face of Owens? I just unloaded 70 square feet and about 80% had some sort of flaw
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no..it really depends on how they are handled. The handipaks usually have the most problems because they get thrown around a lot
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Just speaking on feedback from my customers El dorado is the closest in quality to OC cultured. The price helps some builders decide too. In my market I have noticed quite a bit of the brand "environmental stoneworks" some of which looks just horrid. Also I agree that paying $10 a sq/ft for OC is too much, maybe the pro-fit. $6-$8 is more like it on most of them. Again in my market the natural stone veneer is very popular. The price ranges from $8-$15 per sq/ft depends on the specifics, and corners can be $20 + per lineal ft.

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