Cultured Stone On Sheetrock

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-21-2008, 10:44 PM   #1
Registered User
 
deffed's Avatar
 
Trade: 22 yrs ceramic tile, stone & wood flooring
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 17
Rewards Points: 10

Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


can you install cultured stone on sheetrock with thinset on a fireplace with a metal firebox, or do you have to use the felt and lathe mudcoat
deffed is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 04-21-2008, 10:54 PM   #2
Pro
 
Mike Finley's Avatar
 
Trade: Bathroom Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Posts: 14,078
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


You can install it on sheet rock like most people did with silicone or liquid nails. You might be the first person in history who went to the trouble of applying that stuff with thinset.

Advertisement

Mike Finley is offline  
Old 04-21-2008, 11:51 PM   #3
Pro
 
Tscarborough's Avatar
 
Trade: Monkey Scratching Cat Herder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,925
Rewards Points: 2,398

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


I beg to differ. For a few of the styles, namely Cultured Stone Pro-fit, you can get away with using a bond-coat type primer on sheetrock. Cultured Brick can be applied with thinset over the primer as well.

Using a liquid nails, silicone, or mastic to attach adhered veneer to sheetrock will be an exercise in frustration, and void every manufacturer's warranty, such as they are.
__________________
There is Birth then there is Death. In between there is maintenance -Tom Robbins
Tscarborough is online now  
Old 04-22-2008, 01:33 AM   #4
Pro
 
Mike Finley's Avatar
 
Trade: Bathroom Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Posts: 14,078
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


DOH! I read cultured stone somehow as cultured marble.

Please disregard
Mike Finley is offline  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:49 PM   #5
Pro
 
raskolnikov's Avatar
 
Trade: masonry
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Moodus,Conn.
Posts: 272
Rewards Points: 258

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


Everytime I see "cultured stone" I can only think of the "sea monkeys" you got at the local fairs and carnivals. Not a dig, just a memory lapse!

D.
raskolnikov is offline  
Old 04-26-2008, 09:57 AM   #6
Registered User
 
deffed's Avatar
 
Trade: 22 yrs ceramic tile, stone & wood flooring
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 17
Rewards Points: 10

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


I have installed ceramic tile and stone ( marble travertine ect) for years on fireplaces over sheetrock using thinset I thought you could do the same with the lightweight stone
deffed is offline  
Old 04-26-2008, 08:52 PM   #7
Pro
 
stacker's Avatar
 
Trade: masonry
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: alva,oklahoma
Posts: 1,214
Rewards Points: 524

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


Quote:
Originally Posted by deffed View Post
I have installed ceramic tile and stone ( marble travertine ect) for years on fireplaces over sheetrock using thinset I thought you could do the same with the lightweight stone
you are looking at two entirely different products,weights and thicknesses.
i know alot of ppl out here are using thinset to lay adhered veener stone.
but i am one who will never use it.i will always use my mason cement and wire lath(where needed.)
__________________
life is short,do your masonry naked!!
http://ok.local.yahoo.biz/knabemasonry/index.html
stacker is offline  
Old 04-27-2008, 10:08 AM   #8
Pro
 
tkle's Avatar
 
Trade: general building and masonry
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,084
Rewards Points: 500

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


I never use straight thinset. It doesn't have enough body.
I won't install phony stone directly over drywall, most manufacturers don't suggest it, however I've torn it down when attached to drywall. Half the board comes down with it. It sticks pretty darn good.
tkle is offline  
Old 04-28-2008, 02:18 PM   #9
Pro
 
Tscarborough's Avatar
 
Trade: Monkey Scratching Cat Herder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,925
Rewards Points: 2,398

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


Thinset over concrete board, Type N over lath or CMU.
__________________
There is Birth then there is Death. In between there is maintenance -Tom Robbins
Tscarborough is online now  
Old 04-29-2008, 07:18 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Jakecanteraman's Avatar
 
Trade: Cantera Stone
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1
Rewards Points: 10

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


I agree with Tscarbarough we have been using concrete bonder and thinset for cantera. That stuff will take down the drywall if you try to take it off.
canterasdelsurcom.

Jake

Last edited by Jakecanteraman; 04-29-2008 at 07:40 PM.
Jakecanteraman is offline  
Old 04-29-2008, 08:06 PM   #11
Pro
 
tkle's Avatar
 
Trade: general building and masonry
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,084
Rewards Points: 500

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakecanteraman View Post
I agree with Tscarbarough we have been using concrete bonder and thinset for cantera. That stuff will take down the drywall if you try to take it off.
canterasdelsurcom.

Jake
Cantera has a smooth back.Profit has a fairly smooth back. Most phony stone doesn't have a smooth back. Normal thinset doesn't have enough body to account for this. Filler is needed. Mixing thinset at different ratios with type N mortar will achieve these results. Using excess thinset to compensate not only creates more mess it also takes longer to adhere. It stays wet longer and will slide or pull away if not held for an extra moment. It also won't create the desired suction that thinset mixed with mortar will.
tkle is offline  
Old 04-29-2008, 09:21 PM   #12
Pro
 
Tscarborough's Avatar
 
Trade: Monkey Scratching Cat Herder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,925
Rewards Points: 2,398

Re: Cultured Stone On Sheetrock


I have never seen a faux rock with a smooth back, but the natural thin cut stone I use is smooth and I have no problems with either. If you feel it needs more body, mix it drier. The bond strength of Type N mortar is barely sufficent for application to backer board (especially with smooth back veneer), and the added thickness is often an issue.

Advertisement

__________________
There is Birth then there is Death. In between there is maintenance -Tom Robbins
Tscarborough is online now  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cultured Stone rockbrain Masonry 38 08-12-2009 10:54 AM
grouting cultured stone. need help pls johnny bravo Masonry 11 03-18-2008 09:03 PM
base of wall w/ cultured stone TAO Masonry 5 03-18-2008 04:03 PM
Cultured Stone Fireplace andrew07 Masonry 2 10-30-2007 08:27 PM
How to remove cement from cultured stone? ruskent Masonry 9 01-31-2006 04:07 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?