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Old 05-15-2007, 02:58 PM   #1
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Can You Identify This Veneer?


I'm looking to copy this. Does anyone know the brand?

I dunno, maybe there's some reps on here.


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Old 05-15-2007, 03:28 PM   #2
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Looks like an Owen Corning blend of ledgestone. Tscar will be in here to nail it to a T shortly Im sure.
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Hard to tell from that picture, but Eldorado Cliffstone in a Mesquite would be my guess, with Cultured Stone Country Ledgestone in Bucks County a possible.
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Ding! Ding! Ding!

6string is the winner.

The HO just found his records and emailed me the answer

Owens Corning Country Ledgestone-Aspen
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I thought Cultured Stone was Owens Corning?
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Then they're both right.
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I thought Cultured Stone was Owens Corning?
You are correct!
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Here is tip concerning matching fake rock (matching color on any surface, really) from pictures: You can generally get the style of stone, but never the color. Hell, the colors in their brochures don't match their website, and the sample boards don't match either.
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I thought Cultured Stone was Owens Corning?
Until recently I've been calling all manufacturd stone cultured stone lol! Then I had a rep from Pro-Line come to my shop and talk with me a bit,and made the mistake of saying cultured stone while talking about his product.
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The manufactured adhered stone business is a very big business and people are proud and protective of the names, products and production techniques.

Recently, one manufacturer won a $40,000,000 law suit over alleged disclosure of proprietary and prorduction details. It may put a company out of business.

Despite the lack of production capacity, the market is projected to grow dramatically because of the cheap products like vinyl siding being offered and over-used.

The products lines are being introduced in a big way in Europe. This is one of the few concrete products and techniques that have gone in that direction, since there is a long history of the U.S. adopting more advanced European ideas, technologies and techniques.
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I talk as many people out of using adherred veneer as I talk into it. It has a place, and it's uses, but it is not a cheap alternative to dimensional stone veneer.

As I see it, it should be used where you can't use real dimensional veneer (i.e. remodel with no brick ledge, interior accents, and DIY. It is not cost effective on new construction in most cases (in this area), nor is it a superior product to dimensional stone/brick veneer.
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I talk as many people out of using adherred veneer as I talk into it. It has a place, and it's uses, but it is not a cheap alternative to dimensional stone veneer.

As I see it, it should be used where you can't use real dimensional veneer (i.e. remodel with no brick ledge, interior accents, and DIY. It is not cost effective on new construction in most cases (in this area), nor is it a superior product to dimensional stone/brick veneer.
agreed but if it comes too tile wrk i send it too the tile guy lol
(( to me cultured stone and adherred veneer is the same, applied like tile ))i guess us tru stone masons are actualy a dieing breed like they say, and im only 36 lol,, will not do a fake stone job unless its like winning a power ball ticket jackpot lol,, just ben taught by old school maybe its a good thing maybe not but its going good sofar.
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Well, Dik, I guess around 1920 the stone masons said the same thing about building veneer construction as opposed to solid masonry, but guess what? I have not worked on a solid masonry wall in the last 25 years.

Tile guys as a rule can not, and should not do adhered veneer. It is not the same. Some stucco guys can do it, but as a rule the best quality jobs are done by stone masons. They know that every stone has it's place, and understand coursing, jointing, and tucking.

I have had several adhered brick jobs where the tile guy tried to grout it like tile. Can you say rip out and re-do?
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Well, Dik, I guess around 1920 the stone masons said the same thing about building veneer construction as opposed to solid masonry, but guess what? I have not worked on a solid masonry wall in the last 25 years.

Tile guys as a rule can not, and should not do adhered veneer. It is not the same. Some stucco guys can do it, but as a rule the best quality jobs are done by stone masons. They know that every stone has it's place, and understand coursing, jointing, and tucking.

I have had several adhered brick jobs where the tile guy tried to grout it like tile. Can you say rip out and re-do?
ok i agree in a sense lol,, with the if u wont a real looking stone job with fake stone your best bet is too have a a stone mason (like me and many on here ) do it,, i still cant bring me`self to do it(( only helped out once on one and it did go up fast)) BUT i luv the natty stone,, it has that certian smell when it with a carbide lol
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