Brick Ledge

coupe33

Some one i am sure has asked before I just don't have all night to search for it. I have to add a brick ledge to an existing concrete wall since the wall will be 18' long and approx 16' from peak to grade i feel best about pouring a brick ledge instead of using angle. what should be the ledge width 4"- 5"- 6"? next what is the best to use for a lintel over a 16' garage door. Trying to prep for which ever mason layes up the brick veneer areas on this house. I believe the owners are going with standard brick no jumbos or irregulars

Brickie

Why you & not the mason?


Hmmm......why not an angle?????????



Judging by the questiion, it sounds like you haven't done this before. What does the mason contractor recommend???

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TERM101

Trying to figure out where your brick is coming from...sorry..brain isnt working tonight.. I assume your brick is coming off of the footing when you day grade? If so just lay a course or two of 4" cap block for a brick ledge. Will save time by eliminating a few courses of brick that will be covered up. As for using angle iron there is nothing wrong with this. Just use a piece of 3" angle iron unless it is coming off of the footing in which case you could use the cap block. As for the lintel above the garage door just use a piece of angle.

Tscarborough

"just use a piece of angle."

This is the type of thinking that wastes quite a bit of my time consulting with homeowners, builders, and even architects, as we meet on the jobsite to determine the best way to remediate issues with brick and stone veneer.

That is NOT the correct answer, Sir.

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stacker

i liked that answer too.

if you pour a brick ledge i would go at least 5 inches wide.this will give the mason plenty of room to work in case the framed wall is out of plumb.at least 18 to 24 inches deep.
as far as over the garage door,a 3 1/2x 3 1/2 x3/8 angle iron should do the trick.i would lag 4-5 lag bolts into the garage door header.and if you have another 8 foot of brick on top of that,i would place jack legs under the iron for a few days.also make sure the iron laps over the brick on both sides of the door by 6 inches.

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TERM101

Sorry for the short answer. Was trying to hurry and leave the office to meet with the engineer. Just trying to give you a little insight to shove you in the right way before I had to run. You guys always beat your kids before you listen to their side of the story?

gregj

Yes, I don't have time for stories.

concretemasonry

gregj -

There is no story of information in depth about the situation, so it might be O.K. for kids, but not real contractors.

I guess it shows that few "GCs" know little about masonry or design, especially when it comes to veneer walls over 16' high. - "Build and dump"

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joasis

And, you might be surprised how many masons don't have the answers needed either. I just have to get by a house 45 miles from here and take a few pictures...to see the "other" side.

I don't believe I have ever asked a mason anything except price and extras....on my jobs, I provide the angle irons, ties, cement, and sand...they show up and lay brick. BTW, I am not being arrogant about not asking....I have never encountered anything to would require getting the mason out to solve an issue with.

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Tscarborough

Technically it is not the job of either masons or GCs to figure out structural issues. They certainly can educate themselves enough to do so, but they are accepting risk and liability that is not part of their normal job description.

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neolitic

Somebody's got to order s**t!

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Tscarborough

That is what plans and specifications are for.

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CJKarl

Jeebus! can I come and work for you? Around here the architect gives the mason a pretty picture and It's up to us to figure out how to build it.

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whowaaa

code...thats what i have to go by...any other masons do it to code?
here in oregon I used 2, 1/4 INCH 3x4 angle iron laged into header...crazy code here.