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Old 09-25-2007, 09:41 AM   #1
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Best Way To Attach Angle To This?


I will be putting a 3 ft high brick veneer on an addition. I need to bolt angle since there is no brick ledge.

Any idea of where to bolt it to? I dont think I have enough room to bolt to slab since the grade is pretty hight up to the slab.

Code says:R703.7.2.1 Support by a steel angle: The minimum size for steel
angle support is 6 X 4 X 5/16 thick. This angle support shall be bolted to double
studs by two 7/16 X 4 inch lag bolts. The double stud support shall be placed on
16 inch centers. Flashing and weep holes are required at the bottom of the steel
angle. The maximum height of the veneer supported in this fashion is 12 feet 8
inches. A construction joint is required between this veneer and the veneer that
bears directly on the concrete foundation.




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Old 09-25-2007, 10:11 AM   #2
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What about a small footer of poured reinforced concrete, much more stable and cost effective. Now having said that I don't know what code says concerning this, but that is what I would do. I don't know all of the variables though.
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3' high isnt a whole lot of weight, but I would personally remove the dirt away from the side of the foundation and bolt the angle on to the concrete with anchors.
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A separate concrete footing is probably out of question:

1. You would have to get an approaval for the method and if you could get approval, you would have to show that the soil was compacted enough to guarantee no settlement, which would tear up your exterior.

2. Frost depth would apply.

Bolting into the slab would require jumping through a few hoops:

1. You would have to get approval, even for the relatively small load.

2. you would have to go the route of drilling holes in the slab and epoxying in bolts. The angle would probably have to be more than 6"

3. You would have to provide clear space at the weeps to permit moisture to get out.

The suggested method is "canned" and an automatic approval, even though it is a little over-kill for just 3' of brick. Getting an approval for something different than the standard may not be worth it in the end.
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How about the same answers we all gave you in July?
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How about the same answers we all gave you in July?
Doh!!! In light of this new information I formally retract my bad answer which was misleading anyway!!!
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This might be a bit off subject, but out of curiosity, is the drawing accurate as far as grade placement? If so, you might have some troubles. I don't know what the code is where you are, but here, T.O.F. must be a minimum of 6" above grade, or the foundation wall must. As far as the angle goes, wouldn't that be the same, or similar to using a lintel? I'm no brick layer, but when I used to be a framer, there were several times that the foundation guys forgot the brick ledge and they had to bolt angle iron to the foundation to support the brick....
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