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**Nathan** · 02-24-2004, 11:10 AM

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Grumpy · 02-24-2004, 08:11 PM

Can we swap anything not just equipment? Like maybe old computers etc?

**Nathan** · 02-24-2004, 08:22 PM

Computers are fine, but I'm a little scared of Software.

Grumpy · 02-24-2004, 08:55 PM

What if it's original discs with printer serials? If so, DOH! I just tossed a ton of legal cd's last week.

**Nathan** · 02-24-2004, 10:15 PM

Um, software in general is hard to validate. There are a lot of licenses out there that state you can't transfer ownership at all. I'm fine with everything else but I don't think I want software being traded.

pawned · 04-05-2004, 12:41 AM

It is legal to sell your software, but you must include all copies of the software made, delete all copies of the software that may be one your computer, you must include all the docutmentation that came with the software (which will include the license and product ID number).
Wether or not you will allow it to be sold here is your decision, but I believe it is legal to sell it.

Grumpy · 04-05-2004, 12:50 PM

It is legal to sell as long as the agreement we all "sign" when we open the cd envelope says it's ok, otherwise the seller is breaking a binding agreement.

hatchet · 04-05-2004, 03:33 PM

Referring back to section g of the TOS -
Contractor Talk is not brokering or otherwise participating in any purchase or sale. Contractor Talk has no knowledge of the terms of sale, the condition of any items offered for sale, the accuracy of any aspect of the sale or the use to which any item shall be put. Buyer assumes all responsibility for proper use of any item so purchased.
That pretty much covers the involvement of Contractor Talks liability for such items.

**Nathan** · 04-05-2004, 03:43 PM

So, I take it your wanting to sell software huh?

The last time I actually read the MSFT TOS was for Windows 95 so things have probably changed but it used to state that software could only change hands once. After that it was considered an illegal trade.

I guess if you can sell it on ebay there shouldn't be any problem selling it here. So go head and post it if you want.

hatchet · 04-05-2004, 07:15 PM

Nope.. no software that I have to sell. I was just saying that I don't think ContractorTalk could be held liable for an exchange of anything. It's the sellers and buyers ultimate responsibility - ignorance is not a defense.

**Teetorbilt** · 04-05-2004, 10:51 PM

I donate all of my old equipment, the write offs are worth twice as much as you could sell it for. Make certain that the disk (s) are clean.

MinConst · 12-24-2004, 03:24 PM

Just a FYI
Most software companies will allow the sale of software as long as all copies and PIDs go with it. On the other hand Microsoft is quite different. When it comes to operating system software it is sole one time on one computer. If it is installed on a computer the license belongs to that computer and cannot be transfered legaly. By the license agreement if the computer dies you must legaly buy an new OS.

housedocs · 01-29-2005, 10:08 AM

Yeah we wouldn't want to rob poor ole bill gates, my god the man probably is barely able to feed himself these days

**ProWallGuy** · 02-02-2005, 04:02 PM

Teetor said:

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Make certain that the disk (s) are clean.

My wife watches all those crime scene detective shows, and after seeing those guys at work, I would assume the best way to clean a hard drive would be 2 slugs from a .45 and a good dipping in a river for 3 or more days.

**Teetorbilt** · 02-02-2005, 04:18 PM

Pro, data stays on the drive until it is overwritten. There are some programs out there that will do this for you, DiskWasher comes to mind.

JustaFramer · 02-02-2005, 04:28 PM

the DOD wipe is the best I never tried to do a recover after doing it but if is good enough for the DOD it must be good. I did a DOD wipe on a old comp but set the setting to 100 wipes and did it about ever day. dod does seven. One program out there for free is BC wipe.

And if your that paraniod just use a big fi'n magnet.

**Teetorbilt** · 02-02-2005, 04:36 PM

Big magnet does it every time.

FlashingMaster5 · 01-20-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pawned

It is legal to sell your software, but you must include all copies of the software made, delete all copies of the software that may be one your computer, you must include all the docutmentation that came with the software (which will include the license and product ID number).
Wether or not you will allow it to be sold here is your decision, but I believe it is legal to sell it.

There is a name you can trust.