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Old 08-19-2009, 06:02 PM   #21
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The CLS is the 4 door that looks like a coupe right? The one with the real sharp roofline that slopes down the back?
Yup...that's the one. It's parts are mostly sourced from the E series. It's a coupe looking 4 door sedan. The salesman was very nice to me even though I was a bit dusty and raggy looking afterwork, he did put down some plastic wrap on the seat but let me test drive it on my own for 2 hours.

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Old 08-19-2009, 06:59 PM   #22
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Most farmers are very very rich despite impressions they are poor farmboys. Farmers these days have all their equip and crops insured and gov't subsidies...so don't ever take a farmer as a loser...all that land of his is also of very very high value should there be real estate development.
Most GC's are very, very rich too , despite the impressions they leave on their subs as they work the price down like a farmer works a plow.

Sure, there are rich farmer's, but "most" farmers are like most self employed people, hard working, good folks that aren't afraid to do a days work for 1/2 a days pay.

Depending on the product of the farm, most farmers lose money before the subsidy and even after, they are far from rich. A real farmer knows the wealth of his land is in the product he produces and would not "cash out" to development.

If a guy wants to become "rich" and drive one of Bob's cars to his estimates, there are far easier ways than farming. Maybe lanscaping? Then he can Pay cash for his new Wonder Woman truck, you know the type, invisible!
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For the Rover fans - Ford sold Rover and Jaguar to the huge Indian company, Tata. They have the technology and people, so they can improve the quality. Tata also brought out the $2700 Nano mini-car, but they will only sell it in India ans SE Asia since the demand could be so high. The company designs and manufacture computers in addition to having steel mills, cement plants, running schools, resorts, etc., but all in the markets they are familiar with. Tata is just one of the huge mega-sized Indian companies that does not go outside its area despite the huge annual sales. They and the purchase from Ford may be one of the reasons Ford is not dragged into the "bail-out" and can run a business the way it should be run.
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I've actually seen a Rolls Royce Phantom in person.
I actually worked on Rolls Royces and other exotic cars (20 years ago). Its just another car right? The brakes for example, when you hit the brakes you will stop because it has two backup systems in case the main one fails. Actually got to tinker on Babe Ruths Rolls. It had two engines in case one failed, each engine had two distributors in case one failed. Car was built to not leave you walking.
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Most GC's are very, very rich too , despite the impressions they leave on their subs as they work the price down like a farmer works a plow.

Sure, there are rich farmer's, but "most" farmers are like most self employed people, hard working, good folks that aren't afraid to do a days work for 1/2 a days pay.

Depending on the product of the farm, most farmers lose money before the subsidy and even after, they are far from rich. A real farmer knows the wealth of his land is in the product he produces and would not "cash out" to development.

If a guy wants to become "rich" and drive one of Bob's cars to his estimates, there are far easier ways than farming. Maybe lanscaping? Then he can Pay cash for his new Wonder Woman truck, you know the type, invisible!
depends..development yields great instant results..i.e. in the tracy area...a good friend of mine sold a lot of his ranch off to develop parts of mountain house. And I was the G.C. for him. Smiles at handyman......I've seen one of your trucks around town.... guess biz is good!
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Business is good, could always be better, but I am not complaining. Mountain House, what a great idea, I hope they can rejuvenate it. I have several friends that sold property out there too, they weren't farmers out there, they bought a bunch of property in the Delta, and now they have the money to farm.

Too many families sold out here, the money was crazy and I can't blame them for it, but it sure changed the faces of the players in this town. Small farming is harsh, kinda like small GCing right now, you have to be all sub-contractors or huge to make decent profits.

You hit the nail on the head with this one though "depends..development yields great instant results".

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Never seen a Maybach in person but have seen both the R/R and Bently.

They are nice but for that kind of money I'd rather buy a Lambo or Ferrari. Speaking of which keep seeing a newer Lambo and Ferrari on my way to work. The Ferrari is silver and the Lambo is a color I couldn't guess the name. See Vipers almost daily.

I really liked the episode on TG were Jeremy blows the tire on the Bently or R/R (can't recall both so must alike). All that power and one wheel to do the work.
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I agree with the profiling. I dealt with this at a BMW/Audi dealer when a friend of mine and i took his parents Audi in for an AWD problem. I towed it down for him so while i was waiting for him i was checking out an A-8 on the floor. Some salesman actually came up to me and said "nice car huh, i dont think you could afford it so please dont touch it!" . Well dont you think this ole boy didnt come unglued I started yelling at this punk that i made more money than any of them and my one of my $45k junkers were sitting on thier lot, unlike him i own several homes, i have my own business, i own more tools than most if not all their techs, that unlike him i work for a living and i do know what i can afford. The manager then came over, stated that i was creating a scene and asked me to leave . Who the hell are they to judge a book by its cover? I guess if you fit the yuppie bill then you are ok, but if your a working man than you are not good enough for their ride. Most farmers have more money tied up in equipment then they do in inventory, but then i would rather drive a John Deere than a BMW.

The best car of the three IMO is the Maybach, it is also the oldest top of the line car produced if memory serves me. But would i turn away the others, hell NO.
Hey now my wife drives a BMW!!!

It's funny how some salesman size up customers right away and figure them out on apperance alone.

Here's a good one. A few years ago a customer of my mechanic went into a Ford dealership for a test drive. He's an older man with gray hair who normaly wears blue jeans with holes and flannel shirts. The first salesman dismissed him as a tire kicker as did the second one. Finally the rookie or the lowest on the todem pole salesman started talking to him. He was interested in an F250, F350 and Excursion all brand new. He test drove them all and came back and sat down with the salesmen. Not sure what to buy he decided to just go ahead and buy all three. Yes he bought all three and payed for them on the spot!!! He's got a $600K motor home, large car collection and his last addition on his home cost him $1.7 million!!! He's a lawyer for one of the big atv/snowmobile companies. When he goes out for dinner he only goes to places that allow his lap dog to come with. He orders the dog the best steak they offer and always tips $100. Oh, and his wife sold 10 Toyota dealerships a few years ago.

A friend of mine has a wealthy brother that's the same way maybe even worse. It's like his goal it to come across as poor as possible. His car collection inlcudes a Viper and 4 Hemi Mopars. His daily driver is a rusty old wagon.

I did a roof a few years ago for a resturaunt owner. Huge house with a pole building full of old cars. His daily driver was also a rusty old wagon. The strange this is he owns a steak house were you can get a steak sandwich with fries and soup for less than a value meal at McD's.
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A rustbucket means more to a man than his most expensive car because it's the car that earned him his wealth.
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