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Old 12-06-2010, 08:31 PM   #21
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I love my Van and cannot imagine driving a pick up, I will run down to the tire store as soon as I see a snow flake and have them put on the sonw tires for free that I bought last year.
It ran like a champ, just have to keeo out of the way of the 70 mph 4x4 SUV's
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:20 PM   #22
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I have a Ford E250 and it's ridiculously bad in the snow.

I live in the land of drizzle so it's rarely a problem (once every couple years) but it's pretty well parked once the snow hits.

I need to go up a short minor gradient street to get to the main roads and it's pretty much not going to happen in that rig. When it snowed a couple years ago I took a flat shovel and scooped a trail down that silly little grade change. I'm sure I looked ridiculous but it got the job done.
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my SRW 1 ton cube van with mud tires on the back is a fukin tank in the snow will not get stuck....will plow thru anything....

just dont be stupid.....
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RCT - first, the real spelling is Luxembourg to be authentic - from a Luxembourger (my great-grandfather lived north of Milwaukee).

4WD is a good bail-out for drivers that get themselves in trouble. I have a 4WD Jimmy (Micheline LXT M/S tires) and rarely use the 4WD, except in an emergency or unavoidable situation. It is worthless for stopping unless you gear down to get out of a problem created by a false sense of security or others. - It is fun to come up on a problem and shift down and go up and around people on a ramp, but that is rare.

Even when I go to lock in the 4WD in low range, it makes little difference in stopping or steering/control, but helps get out of bad situations, but does not use the engine to slow the vehicle if it is really slipper/icy. I switch to 4WD once or twice a year to make sure it functions.

You are in a relatively flat area, so stopping is more important than "bulling" your way through the wet snows and ice may you get. - Just from a old driver from MN and NE MI where the snow it not quite the same as yours.

When it comes down to basics, it is up to the driver to determine the needs. The problem comes if you have an employee that can't drive well and blames situations on the vehicle. If the guy can't drive and blames the equipment, ask a few questions.
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RCT - first, the real spelling is Luxembourg to be authentic - from a Luxembourger (my great-grandfather lived north of Milwaukee).

4WD is a good bail-out for drivers that get themselves in trouble. I have a 4WD Jimmy (Micheline LXT M/S tires) and rarely use the 4WD, except in an emergency or unavoidable situation. It is worthless for stopping unless you gear down to get out of a problem created by a false sense of security or others. - It is fun to come up on a problem and shift down and go up and around people on a ramp, but that is rare.

Even when I go to lock in the 4WD in low range, it makes little difference in stopping or steering/control, but helps get out of bad situations, but does not use the engine to slow the vehicle if it is really slipper/icy. I switch to 4WD once or twice a year to make sure it functions.

You are in a relatively flat area, so stopping is more important than "bulling" your way through the wet snows and ice may you get. - Just from a old driver from MN and NE MI where the snow it not quite the same as yours.

When it comes down to basics, it is up to the driver to determine the needs. The problem comes if you have an employee that can't drive well and blames situations on the vehicle. If the guy can't drive and blames the equipment, ask a few questions.
Really good point about employees driving the vehicle. I had a helper a while back that always drove like a maniac. I'd have him take the truck to get materials and sh*t would be all thrown around inside when he got back. Best I can figure is he was taking corners like it was a Porsche or something. That guy would have a van in the ditch in no time!

Thanks for the info, by the way I always wondered why Luxemburg, WI is spelled the way it is and not Luxembourg like the country.
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Good winter tires make all the difference in the world.

I don't think you'd have any problems getting to work and back unless it's in the mountains or something
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Our e150 handles like crap in the snow. Every winter it gets stuck even with snow tires and chains. 4wd drive makes a massive difference in the snow. I got stuck in my f150 quite a few time last year and 4wd saved me every time.
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you are getting stuck in the snow in VA?
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you are getting stuck in the snow in VA?
Yep we did a few times last winter. We had over 2 ft of snow in one night and we travel out of state a lot on work so also hit snow in other areas. They are ok vans if you can keep them on the road. Once you hit the grass the chains don't do nothing other than dig you deeper.

Here's one of the snow days from last year.

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I viewed van in a snowfall, when I was 13. I saw it at Nainital. Experience was very beautiful. Side by side I have got fear also. I scared, cried and always think about God. At last I reached in our hotel with my parents with a new experience.
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Our e150 handles like crap in the snow. Every winter it gets stuck even with snow tires and chains. 4wd drive makes a massive difference in the snow. I got stuck in my f150 quite a few time last year and 4wd saved me every time.
I'm gonna call bull on that...

I could go almost anywhere I needed even in my '96 pontiac sunfire when it had snow tires on. I can't imagine an F150 stuck in the snow if you had snow tires on. Did you put some weight in the back of the truck?

Pretty much the only time I would ever get stuck while I have snow tires on is if the snow was higher than the bottom of my vehicle (taking the weight off the tires).

If you live in a place that gets a lot of snow, then it should be plowed away before it gets that high.

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I viewed van in a snowfall, when I was 13. I saw it at Nainital. Experience was very beautiful. Side by side I have got fear also. I scared, cried and always think about God. At last I reached in our hotel with my parents with a new experience.
wow...

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I'm gonna call bull on that...

I could go almost anywhere I needed even in my '96 pontiac sunfire when it had snow tires on. I can't imagine an F150 stuck in the snow if you had snow tires on. Did you put some weight in the back of the truck?

Pretty much the only time I would ever get stuck while I have snow tires on is if the snow was higher than the bottom of my vehicle (taking the weight off the tires).

If you live in a place that gets a lot of snow, then it should be plowed away before it gets that high.
After seeing snow tires make zero difference on many a vehicle in winter I don't put them on my vehicles. Our company does though and they'll have snow tires for winter use as we have to deliver medical equipment to hospitals no matter what the weather. The issue is when you come of the road and hit the dirt. The snow tires and chains do nothing to help you get out and even with 4 wheel drive it makes no difference.

Also the roads around here don't get plowed as well as they really should. I will try and dig the pics out from last year of the interstate.
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I believe the opinions of what vehicle is good in snow and what tires are good in snow will vary by location, how the vehicle is set up and how good the driver is. I myself have driven in snow all my life and i also like to think i know how to drive. My old Dodge van was a tank in snow because it had a posi rear, short wheelbase for better balance and i always ran aggressive mud tires on the rear and weight in the back. Pushing snow with the bumper was a common occurrence going to and from work. Same went for all the Honda's i have owned, put aggressive tires on it and lug the engine in the hills and the junks would chug everywhere you wanted to go. I had a Dodge Dakota 2X4 with a cap, bed full of tools and aggressive snows on the rear that would chug around in 12" of snow with no issues. My ECSB diesel i run Cooper Discovery M/S for the winter, i can plow most driveways in 2X4 and no weight in the bed. I put the loaded sander on and it is almost unstoppable in 4X4. Chains are good for emergencies but i personally do not use them, but for some locations it is mandatory to run them.
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I believe the opinions of what vehicle is good in snow and what tires are good in snow will vary by location, how the vehicle is set up and how good the driver is. I myself have driven in snow all my life and i also like to think i know how to drive. My old Dodge van was a tank in snow because it had a posi rear, short wheelbase for better balance and i always ran aggressive mud tires on the rear and weight in the back. Pushing snow with the bumper was a common occurrence going to and from work. Same went for all the Honda's i have owned, put aggressive tires on it and lug the engine in the hills and the junks would chug everywhere you wanted to go. I had a Dodge Dakota 2X4 with a cap, bed full of tools and aggressive snows on the rear that would chug around in 12" of snow with no issues. My ECSB diesel i run Cooper Discovery M/S for the winter, i can plow most driveways in 2X4 and no weight in the bed. I put the loaded sander on and it is almost unstoppable in 4X4. Chains are good for emergencies but i personally do not use them, but for some locations it is mandatory to run them.
I'm sure every area is different. Last year here they had trouble plowing all the roads. The massive plows the DOT used couldn't even plow the roads well. They even had them massive graders trying to move the snow from the road but with no luck. i think they called it verglas. I couldn't find them pics from last year on the interstate but it's the worst I had ever seen a road. Hundreds of cars at the side of the road and only 2" of compacted snow on the road but it was like an ice rink. I was the only vehicle on that 5 mile stretch that was moving and had my normal summer tires on. I didn't even miss my normal sat visit to chik-fil-a. Even our brand new chevy 3/4 ton got stuck a few weeks ago in just 3" of snow. Guy pulled around a car that was sideways on the road and the truck hit the soft mud and got stuck. They do pull trailers with the trucks though so getting stuck is pretty common.


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In Vancouver we're not allowed having studded tires, unfortunately, but then again we don't need it most of the time.

I'm originally from New Brunswick (east coast) and I've driven in snow my whole life. There is a huge difference with or without snow tires.

Your stopping distance with snow tires is very good compared to without.

Traction is a huge difference. Snow tires have much softer rubber so when they're cold they have better traction. Normal tires when they get cold, the rubber gets hard and you might as well be driving with blocks of ice as your tires.

You can easily see the difference pulling up to a snowy intersection who has snow tires and who doesn't. (hopefully the guy behind you does). And good luck going up a hill without them.

If the snow is well compacted on the road and hasn't been salted or sanded then it might as well be ice and unless you have studded tires your life will be tough either way.

There are highways here in BC that they have inspections in rough conditions. If you don't have snow tires you're not goin through.


Before buying snow tires it's good to read reviews, if buying used it's important to check the wear. Since the rubber is softer they wear out much faster, especially if driven during warm weather. I like tirerack.com for buying tires and reading reviews.

However, some people just can't drive in snow no matter what tires they have.

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Was that first guy hitting the gas or the brake? That takes real skill to run into that many things, it was like watching a pin ball game.
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Was that first guy hitting the gas or the brake? That takes real skill to run into that many things, it was like watching a pin ball game.

Check the brake lights. They were on all the way.
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Check the brake lights. They were on all the way.
It looks like the brake lights are only on for the first second or two when he hit the first car. For the rest of it, it's looks like just tail lights and it sounds like he punched the gas after the first pole.

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