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04-29-2008, 01:21 AM
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Handle It!
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Originally Posted by neolitic
When you sober up you will realize that.
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OoooooKay!
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04-29-2008, 01:25 AM
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#62
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Handle It!
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Ya know what Neo.....I think I just might like you! You have "True Grit"!
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04-29-2008, 01:26 AM
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#63
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
You will soon grow into the shoes you wear.
Again.
Show me some REAL tangible websites that explain, support, utilize, convert, or even apply this system to real-World, modern-day applications.
You can not do it.
I did it.
Don't you think helicopters are real?
Anyhow......................If you back track to my ORIGINAL post, you will see that I ADMIT that I have never heard this term prior to this day. I asked more questions so I may become more "well versed" in this field.
So far NO ONE has been able to supply any pertinent info. And you are not adding to the cause. Just being Myopic.
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Look at it like this.
If no one used inch pounds
in the real world.
How long would the manufacture
of torque wrenches calibrated in
inch pounds continue?
If there was no use there wouldbe
no demand, and there would be no supply.
Some one some where disagrees with you.
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Put your location in your profile!
(Sorry....it seems there really are dumb questions)
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04-29-2008, 01:51 AM
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Handle It!
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Yes! Someone. Somewhere. Santa Claus is also regarded highly by someone, somewhere!
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04-29-2008, 09:29 AM
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#65
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In/Lbs.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1RZY8
Ok. This was the 1st of many things that came up when I googled "In/Lbs." It's a modern, real world application. Maybe you should start leaving cookies and milk on your mantle on Dec. 24th, Malco.
Let's move on.
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04-29-2008, 10:07 AM
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Aussie in Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
Cut it out Sam........Newton/Meters is what you know. The PROPER force index!
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Lol yeah I know, but while the monkeys are flinging poo I want to join in!!!!  
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04-29-2008, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
All I am saying is that the marketing Gurus use a BIG number to sound BIG.
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I agree with you on this one... it is simply used as a marketing ploy to make the tool seem more powerful when all in all its a simple conversion
the only real way to determin a cordless tools power is by voltage and by the tools gearing/motor/transmission efficiency
Last edited by bcradio; 04-29-2008 at 10:50 AM.
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04-29-2008, 10:57 AM
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but this IS a tool forum MALCO so I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on whether or not they use in/lbs
If you take a look at the name of the site you will see that it is for CONTRACTORS... so we can safely eliminate using automotive tools here... OBVIOUSLY
with the exception of DeWalt (who uses Unit Watts Out), almost all other (construction) tool manufacturers who measure torque of their tools do so in in/lbs
There we have it... argument over... MALCO learned something new... and were all better now
-good day
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04-29-2008, 03:54 PM
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#69
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Handle It!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bcradio
but this IS a tool forum MALCO so I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on whether or not they use in/lbs
If you take a look at the name of the site you will see that it is for CONTRACTORS... so we can safely eliminate using automotive tools here... OBVIOUSLY
with the exception of DeWalt (who uses Unit Watts Out), almost all other (construction) tool manufacturers who measure torque of their tools do so in in/lbs
There we have it... argument over... MALCO learned something new... and were all better now
-good day
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Yes I did.
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04-29-2008, 04:48 PM
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Handle It!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by send_it_all
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1RZY8
Ok. This was the 1st of many things that came up when I googled "In/Lbs." It's a modern, real world application. Maybe you should start leaving cookies and milk on your mantle on Dec. 24th, Malco.
Let's move on.
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No! My Santa eats ONLY Tofu and Soy Milk.
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04-29-2008, 07:55 PM
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#71
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Steve
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Sawsall and Paslode framer, finish nailers
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04-29-2008, 08:04 PM
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#72
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Roofing nailer, Skytrac, 18V cordless saw, dump trailer. All have contributed to our productivity immeasurably. Can't ever imagine going back . . . .
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05-21-2008, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
I was NOT beating on cordless.........ALL I own, at this point, is cordless! (I do not do any Heavy Work these days. That what Subs are for!)
I just find it hilarious that they have created a "NEW" measuring system to make them sound "Tough". Never, never have I heard of "Inch/pounds" of Torque. The REAL measurement is Newton/Meters or Foot/Pounds.
Marketing is a wondrous endeavor!
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Marketing is, unfortunately, like politics. Tell them what sounds good.
But saying inch pounds of torque is "NEW" measuring system, versus foot pounds, is like saying inches is "NEW" versus feet to measure length. Same as length, just divide inch pounds by 12 to find foot pounds.
In over 30 years of construction and using 100' s of different tools by naerly every manufacturer, after trying Hilti tools, the one thing I am confident in saying is they don't need any hype or misleading advertising. They build very, very good tools. Maybe not the best in everything, but always good performing and the most durable tools i have ever used.
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05-21-2008, 10:24 PM
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Handle It!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allelectric
Marketing is, unfortunately, like politics. Tell them what sounds good.
But saying inch pounds of torque is "NEW" measuring system, versus foot pounds, is like saying inches is "NEW" versus feet to measure length. Same as length, just divide inch pounds by 12 to find foot pounds.
In over 30 years of construction and using 100' s of different tools by naerly every manufacturer, after trying Hilti tools, the one thing I am confident in saying is they don't need any hype or misleading advertising. They build very, very good tools. Maybe not the best in everything, but always good performing and the most durable tools i have ever used.
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I have not, and never would, bad mouth Hilti. But for price!!!!
As for In/Lbs versus Ft/Lbs versus Newton Meters........ONLY Newton Meters is real. As in Isaac Newton. He is BEYOND reproach!!!!!!
Last edited by MALCO.New.York; 05-22-2008 at 11:35 AM.
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05-22-2008, 08:12 AM
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Thread derailed! Let's get back on track!
For me, going to an Autofeed Screw system (The P13KUE from PAM Fastening) was one of the smarter things I've ever done!! Like many, I used to get down on my hands and knees and fiddle with loose screws in a pouch.. that gets old REAL quick!! Now, I stand up and can drive screws in seconds like there's no tommorrow!! I've figured that I acheive about an 80% labor savings with this bad boy

(and no thats not me LOL... just a pic from the PAM website http://www.pamfast.com)
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05-22-2008, 08:44 PM
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i got a new crack pipe today
seems to be changing my life
wait
what
did i call you or did you call me
hello
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05-22-2008, 09:24 PM
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#77
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Member
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home construction
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Hitachi 10" SCMS Up until this purchase I was taking huge risks with my digits, trying to manage tricky cuts with a chop box.
Electric drywall screwgun - is there any other way to go?
Framing nailer - what can I say; it's the ultimate tool for framing.
Construction Master calculator - being a dumb ass with math, this tool is invaluable.
Regards
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05-24-2008, 02:44 PM
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#78
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Probably would have to be the Spring tool nail set. Every finish carpenter should own one of these.
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05-24-2008, 03:01 PM
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
I have not, and never would, bad mouth Hilti. But for price!!!!
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I will.
Though I do like Hilti products, and expect them to be better then other brands because of the price. They have let me down. Here is the story in short.
I had to fly to Texas for work, and the batteries on my Makita impact were on their death bed. I ended up borrowing a friends extra Hilti 1? volt impact that he never uses. I had the Hilti sitting on the 3rd step of a 4' ladder. I bumped it, and it fell off. I then went to used the impact, and it didn't work. The next thing I knew it was smoking. I tried both batteries, with the same results. So here I am in Texas with a tool that I need, and it doest work, because of a 4' fall. It then cost $60 to get it fixed.
Sorry for going off topic.
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05-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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#80
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Mafall
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