Stiletto Framing Hammer? - Page 3 - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Ranzan · 05-14-2009, 07:57 AM

Red glazing bar.... I would never be without one best tool I own other than my TB

wallmaxx · 05-14-2009, 09:29 AM

http://www.hitechglazing.com/product/43604

Thanks...it IS called a glazing bar.

crduschik · 10-10-2009, 03:31 PM

I have a 14oz stilleto. I like it but the handles break frequently

wallmaxx · 10-10-2009, 06:04 PM

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I have a 14oz stilleto. I like it but the handles break frequently

Get the solid titanium hammer.......nothing breaks but the bank.

john5mt · 10-10-2009, 07:24 PM

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Hey Duke

I have spent the last 3 days trying to find a link to that red tool. No luck. It had a made in Canada stamp on it...but thats gone. I have seen similar black ones here in the States, but they are all more rigid / less springy. My brother-in-law gave it to me. $10 I think. It is made out of spring steel so it has a little "bendability" to it. I use it as a scraper, pry bar, chisel, tape smoother, or whatever. It's pretty cool.

It's a roberts trim bar. (my wife is canadian so whenever we go up there and i have to do stuff to help the mom in law i always browse the tool section to see what they have that's different.) So i actually own a less beat version of that. (though i think i may have lost it on my last job). I like the vaughn one better. It's a little stiffer than that one.

hughjazz · 10-10-2009, 09:20 PM

I recently stopped using my stiletto hammer because I was developing a sore elbow. (where my bicep meets my elbow) I went back to my ti-tech and have noticed an improvement over the last month or so.

the nail bar is a permanent part of my tool bag though.

Inner10 · 10-10-2009, 10:22 PM

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I have a 14oz stilleto. I like it but the handles break frequently

Your telling me, mine has spent as much time sinking nails as it has in my toolbag without a handle!

TempestV · 10-11-2009, 02:57 AM

I have the ti-tech and the ti-bone. The ti-tech is definitely better than a steel hammer, but there is no comparison to the ti-bone. The first time I ever used a ti-bone, I borrowed one off of a coworker because I wanted to know if they were "all that". I grabbed a 16 out of my bags, sunk it into the wall, and then had to take a second look at the nail head to make sure that it really was a 16, since it was about as easy to drive as an 8.

The best thing about the Ti-bone is the handle. I can't stand a steel handled hammer and up till the Ti-bone, all my hammers had wood handles. The Ti-bone feels like a wood handle when you are using it, but it also has the advantages of a metal handle, like strength.

The advantage that titanium has over steel is that it is more efficient at transferring energy. If you swing a 24 oz steel hammer and a 16oz titanium hammer at the same speed, the steel hammer will carry considerably more momentum, but a good portion of it will be directed back into the hammer, so the lighter titanium hammer that transfers nearly all of it's momentum can do the same thing with less weight. If it all came down to being able to swing the hammer faster, then a 16oz steel hammer would be just as effective as a 16 oz titanium hammer.

I'm kinda surprised nobody has released titanium hammers with head weights that you usually see on steel hammers- a 28oz titanium hammer would hit something like a 3 pound sledge, but feel the same to swing as a regular hammer.

and a glazing bar/scraper is an absolute necessity.

TempestV · 10-11-2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10

Your telling me, mine has spent as much time sinking nails as it has in my toolbag without a handle!

The Stiletto wood handled hammers are pretty weak. If you compare the head to a Vaughn or a Dalluge, you will notice that the handle socket is way smaller on the Stiletto.

KennMacMoragh · 10-11-2009, 07:51 AM

Try one out, I tried one and I didn't like it, but most people love em. I find you don't get the same striking power when you need to do something like move a wall over. And when you need to do demo or rip apart braces they can break, though they have a lifetime warranty, it's still a pain when they break. I use the Stanly fiberglass.

DaVinciRemodel · 10-11-2009, 10:04 AM

About 5 years ago my partner bought the 14oz Stilleto - I thought he was nuts - only 14 oz and about $100. I gave it a try and I love it! Less weight and less fatigue.

Having said that, my personal preferences are:
1. On large framing projects - hire a framer,
2. On moderate framing projects - let my partner and his Stilleto do it,
3. If I have to do it - Porter Cable FR350A,
4. If none of the above is an option - steal my partners Stilleto.

"Men of lofty genius when they are doing the least work are more productive." Leonardo da Vinci (1452 - 1519)

Inner10 · 10-12-2009, 07:47 PM

Has anyone tried the Mini 14? I'm thinking I may get one for daily use to reduce the aggrivation of snapping handles.

The Musclehead framer has a thick square end on the handle, its just the 14oz framer that has the skinny teardrop end.

john5mt · 10-13-2009, 01:38 PM

YOu can but what would really solve your problems would be the TI bone

TempestV · 10-13-2009, 01:44 PM

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YOu can but what would really solve your problems would be the TI bone

I'm pretty sure that the titanium handle is stronger than a steel handle. I'd used my Ti-bone to tighten ratchet straps by slipping it through the handle on the ratchet strap and using it to extend the ratchet handle, pulling as hard as I can sideways on the handle. I'm reasonably certain that doing the same thing with an Estwing would bend it, but it doesn't hurt my ti-bone at all.

10fingers · 10-18-2009, 08:22 PM

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that scraper bar? richard drywall tool makes em. but most hand tool companys who make bars also have em. $7

LEVEL BAR SCRAPER RICHARD

SKU: 228-355 Units: EACH
$7.49
That's a store SKU from Totem Building Supplies. Hope that helps.

Anderson · 10-18-2009, 08:48 PM

I do framing on a small scale at best, finishing basements partition walls etc. I always use by f28 bostich. Is it to much of a pain hauling around a hose on a big job. ??????

TempestV · 10-18-2009, 09:17 PM

What are you saying- that you don't use a hammer? I have a very nice Hitachi gun, but sometimes I need to put up a brace, remove a brace, tack something when the gun isn't right there, pull a nail, wack a cats paw, persuade a piece into place, hit a chisel, drive a nail that the gun didn't drive all the way, ect.

Anderson · 10-19-2009, 08:05 PM

Of course I use a hammer pretty much everyday. I just don't really use one when I am framing, granted like I said I only do small framing jobs. Just curious if the guys that frame all day long use a hammer as there primary or they just carry it for the problem shots, and of course hitting a chisel, or tapping something into place.
Where I was going is if there is a need for a $100 hammer if its not your primary framing tool.

Zulu · 10-19-2009, 09:18 PM

All the talk about hand tools sent me to the truck to enventory my pouch clc bags with susspenders , 20oz stanley grafite, 100ft stanley chalk line, 25ft stanley fat max extreme, 3/4 stanley chisel,stanley utility knife, stanley 6 in one screw driver/ glazing bar, 20yr old MD speed sq, 2pencils [free] sharpy, nail set, box of marlboros, am i addicted to stanley tools or just cheep?

Inner10 · 10-19-2009, 09:37 PM

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All the talk about hand tools sent me to the truck to enventory my pouch clc bags with susspenders , 20oz stanley grafite, 100ft stanley chalk line, 25ft stanley fat max extreme, 3/4 stanley chisel,stanley utility knife, stanley 6 in one screw driver/ glazing bar, 20yr old MD speed sq, 2pencils [free] sharpy, nail set, box of marlboros

Sounds like my bag of loaner tools that I keep for my guys to destroy and loose...Except for the marlboros!

...I wouldn't say cheap, stanley ain't cheap, I'd say overpriced.