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ampman
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On My Tape
what are the diamonds on a tape measure @19 1/4, 38 3/8,57 5/8 and so on
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framer
Trade: framing
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Re: On My Tape
I was told they were for min. spacing for elec. conduits.
But seeing thats your trade I guess they were busting me! |
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Capra aegagrus
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ampman
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Re: On My Tape
thanks tinstaafl
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I like Green things
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Re: On My Tape
I thought it was for spacing for engineered floor trusses and such.
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topsail's trimcat
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Re: On My Tape
scoring target for spitting sunflower seeds
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Pro
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Re: On My Tape
not sure if you are kidding, they are layout measurements..every fifth one is 8'. usually for tgi joists. I just wish they would put a diamond at the top and bottom of the tape
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Pro
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Re: On My Tape
diamond layout
dont ask me how to use it but thats what I was told back when I was framing |
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Handle It!
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Re: On My Tape
Hard Data!
" Note the markings on the tape. Each mark indicates a 1/16-inch increment. There is usually an arrow indicator at 16-inch increments to show the typical distance between wall studs. The diamonds are for marking joists and studs at points one-fifth of 8 feet. " http://www.ehow.com/how_18221_measuring-tape.html The guy with the Huge Asss, had it verbatim! .
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strat hd
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Re: On My Tape
Huge asss....
......Nothing personal Hugh..........![]() I-joist layout is correct, however, I still lay them out on 16" centers |
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topsail's trimcat
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Re: On My Tape
yup i joist layout, be it TJI or OJT's, havent done a 19 3/16 o.c in some time. most of the places ive been working on are additions with 9 1/4" TJI's so they call for 12" oc or 16
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Curmudgeon
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Re: On My Tape
The diamonds were there
before there were TJI's. We did some roof truss on that layout, and I'm told it was common in Texas? Maybe other non-snowload places as well.
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strat hd
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Re: On My Tape
Are you sure ? I remember it the other way around. My first experience with TJI's was in Denver 1981. I think Denver was a test market for them.
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Curmudgeon
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Late 70's, early 80's? Never heard of TJI's til much later. I'll look around for an old tape tomorrow, but I wouldn't think they'd start to change tapes to accommodate a new product til it was in pretty wide use. I was wrong once before.
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Pro
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Re: On My Tape
I'm not sure which was first, - - but either way it's basically a compromise between 16 and 24 inch centers, - - 5 studs, joists, or rafters per 8' section, as opposed to 6 or 4.
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KemoSabe
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Re: On My Tape
Sounds like it should be on the **** star thread
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Capra aegagrus
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Re: On My Tape
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that they've included the diamonds pretty much since the company was founded in the 1800's, when you were just a young'un.
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Curmudgeon
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Re: On My TapeQuote:
when they invented it. Just thought it was a fad though.
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Pro
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Re: On My Tape
The answer is LAYOUT, intermediate between 16"OC and 24"OC. And it has nothing to do with engineered lumber. I have my grandfathers stick rule, dating from the 1950's, and it has 19.2"OC ticks
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