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05-04-2008, 07:44 PM
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My new green toy
P650
wow wee, what a gun!
love the pinners!
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05-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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Concrete Pin Nailer?
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05-04-2008, 07:52 PM
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23 guage pin nailer for detail trim work.
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05-04-2008, 08:26 PM
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I was ready to buy that one but at the last second, I found out the Cadex does both pins and brads. I'm confused now
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05-04-2008, 08:29 PM
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I have used the Cadex and the Nikle which do both. The headed pins have a smaller diameter shank and the same size head as the regular pins. I saw no difference in headed vs. non-headed.
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05-04-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
Concrete Pin Nailer?
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I thought it might be like one of these:
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05-04-2008, 08:37 PM
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Never seen one of those
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05-04-2008, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
I have used the Cadex and the Nikle which do both. The headed pins have a smaller diameter shank and the same size head as the regular pins. I saw no difference in headed vs. non-headed.
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Great....make my decision even harder
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05-04-2008, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
Never seen one of those
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It's concrete nailer.
Pneumatic.
Non-powder acuated.
Features and Benefits Aluminum housing for job site durability High speed pneumatic power increases productivity over other fastening methods High capacity magazine reduces reload time Makes fastening of wood furring strips to concrete fast and easy - Product Details Height 12 in.,325.37mm Length 100 in.,2562.35mm Width 2-3/4 in.,69.85mm Weight 7.12 lbs, 3.23 kilos Driving Power 420 Magazine Capacity 66 Max. Operating Pressure 100 Min. Operating Pressure 60 Operating Pressure 60-100 Power to Weight Ratio 60 Thread Fitting Type NPT Thread Size 3/8 in. - Application Installation of metal drywall track Furring channel Wood furring Tackless carpet strip Floor underlayment Carpet edge molding
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05-04-2008, 09:28 PM
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angus get the grex it is awesome, they have several different ones with different length capacities. I got the 2" so I would not have to buy a differnt one ever! Not cheap, nor are the pins, allthough they come in boxes of 10k
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05-04-2008, 10:29 PM
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Congratz
I couldn't bring myself to spend $300 for a nail gun. I had the 1 3/16 grex, and I just got the Cadex 1 3/8 version. Waiting for it to be delivered. I bet I have shot over 200,000 nails with my 1 3/16
A few of the guys at work have the Grex 1 3/8 and the Max version. They both seem to perform the same. I ended up getting the Cadex mostly so I could review it, and It came with a built in blower. Hopefully the headed nails will help prevent pullthroughs in soft wood.
Let us know how you like it.
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05-04-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiglag
hopefully the headed nails will help prevent pullthroughs in soft wood.
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See, that's what I was thinking. I'm still on the fence. After I did extensive research, I was set on the Grex. I know the Cadex seems close in features and quality (and positive reviews), so the difference-maker seemed to be the pins and brads advantage. WarnerConstInc brings up the very good point of an actually thinner brad just to make the head 23ga. However, even with the difference, Quiglag brings up an additional point of pull through of softer wood. Dealing with kitchen remodels, I think I tend to see it all. I'm overall still a bit indecisive but I think I'm leaning towards the Cadex...NOT that I think the Grex is an inferior tool.
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05-05-2008, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angus242
See, that's what I was thinking. I'm still on the fence. After I did extensive research, I was set on the Grex. I know the Cadex seems close in features and quality (and positive reviews), so the difference-maker seemed to be the pins and brads advantage. WarnerConstInc brings up the very good point of an actually thinner brad just to make the head 23ga. However, even with the difference, Quiglag brings up an additional point of pull through of softer wood. Dealing with kitchen remodels, I think I tend to see it all. I'm overall still a bit indecisive but I think I'm leaning towards the Cadex...NOT that I think the Grex is an inferior tool.
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I was on the fence as well with the headed brad vs the straigh pin. I didn't know which was better so I went with the cadex because it shoots both. it should be on my door step tomorrow and I got a big door/trim to do this week, I hope it worth the money.
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05-05-2008, 06:08 PM
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what's the motivating factor for purchasing a pin nail gun over a brad nailer?
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05-05-2008, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 72chevy4x4
what's the motivating factor for purchasing a pin nail gun over a brad nailer?
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I 2nd that.
My 18g brads are easy to fill and have greater holding power than a 22g pin
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05-05-2008, 08:01 PM
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not having to fill or putty all of those holes. The Grex and Cadex seem very similar in size and shape. The blower thingy on the Cadex is really useful to piss someone off when you douche them in the face, he he he. I got the grex due to the fact that there are a few places locally that carry the pins and parts for them. The nikle shoots both but I found it seems to leave 1-2 out of 10 proud (with the slight heads). There is almost nothing you can do when a pin is left proud. Kitchens, baths, gluing up, locking corners, small base shoe. That is what a pinner is for. Cant beat not having to go back and putty all those 18ga brads. No splitting on crown mitres, no splitting cabinet scribe. If you install any kind of small trim work you would be crazy not to own a pinner.
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05-05-2008, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 72chevy4x4
what's the motivating factor for purchasing a pin nail gun over a brad nailer?
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I guess that depends on what you do.
I do a lot of wall panels and columns that have mitered joints. The last thing anyone wants to see is a row of brad nail holes running up the whole 10' joint.
I also use it for all my baseboard outside corners. You never have to worry about the base splitting or jumping at the last second. The gun is also great for self returns or 22 deg. 3 piece outside corners, where a brad would split the small pieces.
Once you own one, you will end up using it for everything.
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05-05-2008, 09:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 72chevy4x4
what's the motivating factor for purchasing a pin nail gun over a brad nailer?
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Having the 18ga blow out a $125 piece of glazed cherry under cabinet molding that's special order
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05-05-2008, 09:57 PM
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Once you own one, you will end up using it for everything.
yup, sums it up
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05-05-2008, 09:59 PM
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I like the higher quality work that can be done with a pinner, nothing moves. Allthough you can stop one shot from the gun with a piece of cardboard, or your shoe!
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