Milwaukee compound slide miter saw - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 07:08 PM

anyone use one,and if so what are your thoughts,and how does it measure up to the Dewalt slide saws?

thanks in advance

WarnerConstInc. · 02-16-2009, 07:34 PM

I heard it was a nice saw, it is very big and heavy though. I know a few people that were considering a Festool Kapex but, bought the Milwakee and are happy with it. It is very heavy to travel with though.

Edit: I cant compare it to the yellow garbage though. I refuse to buy DeWalt tools.

MikeNeufeld · 02-16-2009, 07:35 PM

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/webapp/..._192210_192137

well, i'll chime in, it sure looks heavy, so depending on ur work requirments, they are lighter, just as capable saws....imo

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 07:50 PM

thanks fellas,,,,

i have the dewalt,and its a awsome saw but i only use it for shelving and big beefy crown (7 1/4 and up),but i do not like the idea of framing with it,and the 12" i use for framing isnt as versitile as a slide saw would be

i found a Milwaukee in a pawn shop for a great price and am considering it for a frame saw,its in great condition

MikeNeufeld · 02-16-2009, 08:07 PM

Edit: I cant compare it to the yellow garbage though. I refuse to buy DeWalt tools.[/quote]

I hear ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 08:14 PM

i have 5 Dewalt chop saws,the oldest being about 12 years old,and it still cuts great,i wont trim a million dollar house with it or cabinet trim but it still chomps 2x6's and is a great deck saw

MikeNeufeld · 02-16-2009, 08:28 PM

If you are happy with dewalt, why change???

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 08:34 PM

because the milwaukee is at a fantastic price,if i was going to buy brand new i wouldnt hesitate to get another dewalt slide saw,but 2 bills for a used milwaukee verses $650 for a new dewalt thats going to get used and abused framing,the math speaks for itself

MikeNeufeld · 02-16-2009, 08:34 PM

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/indus...47945&artnum=7

MikeNeufeld · 02-16-2009, 08:36 PM

true you have a good point. I would buy it, u can't really lose with a price like that and for your applications...Even if you don't like it that much, you could prolly end up selling it for what you paid for it. I say go for it.....

Bodger · 02-16-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.

I heard it was a nice saw, it is very big and heavy though. I know a few people that were considering a Festool Kapex but, bought the Milwakee and are happy with it. It is very heavy to travel with though.

Edit: I cant compare it to the yellow garbage though. I refuse to buy DeWalt tools.

I've good and bad luck with the yellow brand. What don't you like about them Warner?

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 08:39 PM

i should also add that i have alot of Milwaukee tools,but have never tried their miter box before,their skill saw and saw zaw are probably the smoothest running of any ive ever tried/owned so if the miter box is in the same ball park im sure i will be happy,just wanted to hear from you fellas first before i pounced on it

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 08:53 PM

i love the dewalt miter boxs,used them exclusively for probably 15 years and i average 50 new construction trim jobs a year including rail systems and cabinets,so they get used well and are just like anything,they need to be taken care of

an occasional set of brushs,or even a $20 bearing replacement is par for course for as much trim as they bang out,and also an occasional shot of silicone spray on the moving parts keeps everything functioning smoothly

and also the Dewalt table saw,the table saw has great features and rips 2x material no problem,as well as having a simple compact folding stand,the wheeled stands just dont do anything for me,big,bulky and just a pain in the butt,if you cant carry a portable table saw without needing to add a 100 lb stand with wheels then its time to retire

i will say i gave up on their (Dewalt) cordless tools,the new milwaukee lith ion stuff is great and am very happy with them

IHI · 02-16-2009, 08:57 PM

Seriously for "two bills" why do you even need to ask, it's worth buying even if it only collects dust after the moment you purchase it. I gave a buck fity for a standard 12" Dewalt miter saw and it got dumped in my basement 3yrs ago and has'nt seen the light of day since, dont know as if it ever will either, but when the price is right and it's in as good a shape as you say, i fail to see questioning performance, you could just throw a 24/40T blade in it and chop 2x junk with it if nothing else.

Heck, you buy it, i'll pay for shipping and tack $50 on for your effort and i'll throw that in the basement too

sore thumb · 02-16-2009, 09:06 PM

i asked because i like to make informed decisions when making purchases,not just what the manufacturer has to say about "their" product,or making blind purchases,case in point,the last blind purchase was a paslode T250 nailer that is the biggest piece of crap i ever used,love the paslode 3250 so figured the next gen T250 should follow suit

id rather ask those that have used it because IF it has issues then id rather put the 2 bills towrds a saw that i know id like rather than one thats going to irritate me knowing i tossed a couple hundred away on a poorly designed saw before asking opinions from those that have used it

the weight isnt an issue for me.so if thats its only down fall than im good to go,,,thanks again to all for your input,its greatly appreciated

TBFGhost · 02-16-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.

Edit: I cant compare it to the yellow garbage though. I refuse to buy DeWalt tools.

I am not a fan of the yellow...I have used a 12" slider of theirs...the 708?? and I am not a fan, maybe I am just too used to the bosch? I also hated a Dewalt 71/4" sidewinder that one guy I used to work with had....just never could cut right with it.....but that was prob on me. Also the same guy had DeWalt cordless that never held a charge and the drywall guns felt clunky and didn't seem as smooth as the Makita....I also have used a 10" Dewalt CMS in a pinch and I dis-liked the hard start-up...to me it felt the same using that saw as my fathers Craftsman 10".

But I know some people love them...so to each their own.

WarnerConstInc. · 02-16-2009, 10:05 PM

Bodger- I have just had a couple of their tools fall apart quite quickly. Their Batteries suck, everytime I pick one of thier tools up it just feels cheap, Black and Decker cheap. I do have an old 3/8" chuck electric drill that just wont die though. I have been around people that use dewalts and every time I grab one of them to use it instead of going out to the trailer, I always end up having to go to the trailer anyways.

I am sorry but, I think out of all the major hand held power tool companies in the game, Dewalt is always riding the pine.

sore thumb · 02-17-2009, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TBFGhost

I am not a fan of the yellow...I have used a 12" slider of theirs...the 708?? and I am not a fan, maybe I am just too used to the bosch? I also hated a Dewalt 71/4" sidewinder that one guy I used to work with had....just never could cut right with it.....but that was prob on me. Also the same guy had DeWalt cordless that never held a charge and the drywall guns felt clunky and didn't seem as smooth as the Makita....I also have used a 10" Dewalt CMS in a pinch and I dis-liked the hard start-up...to me it felt the same using that saw as my fathers Craftsman 10".

But I know some people love them...so to each their own.

i dont understand,,,,you purchase Ryobi tools but knock Dewalt?

the newer belt driven saws are very smooth,my older single bevel 12'' saws do start with a little more punch than the belt drives but i can roll through a serious amount of shoe mold and 3 1/4 base with them,very fast saws for running with the smaller trims

as for Bosch,i do like their stuff and own several Bosch tools,but their not the answer to all,i figured id "upgrade" my orbital palm sander for my trim van and purchased a bosch,,,,,not overley impressed,the dust collector is cumbersome to the point i dont even use it in most cases,it doesnt work as fast as my dewalt using the same paper and was retired to the frame truck for cornice work after giving it a good chance to grow on me,never did

tools are what ever you get use to using,for me there is no one brand that has it all,one thing is for certain,i would be embarassed to pull anything Ryobi out on a job,they make "Harry Home Owner" embarrassed

IHI · 02-17-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sore thumb

i dont understand,,,,you purchase Ryobi tools but knock Dewalt?

i would be embarassed to pull anything Ryobi out on a job,they make "Harry Home Owner" embarrassed

I've had the same Ryobi drills/impact driver, saws for over 6 years now, i just bought 3 of the new lithium ion batteries as an upgrade since they were smart enough to let you use the same tools over the years as opposed to changing things forcing a complete new tool purchase. In 6 years times prior to Ryobi, i replaced 3 dewalt drills that fell from a ladder and snapped in half, i never did have a battery make it to the 1 yr mark before it was junk and unusable from not holding a charge...they're cordless tools are about on par with their black and decker brother, original tools. Corded Dewalts i have no issue with, my stuff has seems to hold up well for the past 16 yrs, but cordless, make fun all you want, this Ryobi stuff wont die and gets the job done...i've made up my mind to try out Milwaukee lith ion stuff once these ryobi's croak...but they wont, on one hand it sucks since i wat to try another brand, but on the flip side, i could give two ****s about being the "cool" contractor because of the color of my tools, I like the fact i've gotten over 6yrs use on one set no questions asked...alot better for my bottom line, and i like being rich vs being considered cool by tradesmen not paying my bills

almost as stupid as wanting a reivew on a $200 pawn shop saw

if your that strung out over $200 dont buy it, but anybody else would jump on this to flip it and make some coin or buy it just have it to have it...but maybe your $$ are tight trying to purchase tools that impress the people around you??

TBFGhost · 02-17-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sore thumb

i dont understand,,,,you purchase Ryobi tools but knock Dewalt?

the newer belt driven saws are very smooth,my older single bevel 12'' saws do start with a little more punch than the belt drives but i can roll through a serious amount of shoe mold and 3 1/4 base with them,very fast saws for running with the smaller trims

as for Bosch,i do like their stuff and own several Bosch tools,but their not the answer to all,i figured id "upgrade" my orbital palm sander for my trim van and purchased a bosch,,,,,not overley impressed,the dust collector is cumbersome to the point i dont even use it in most cases,it doesnt work as fast as my dewalt using the same paper and was retired to the frame truck for cornice work after giving it a good chance to grow on me,never did

tools are what ever you get use to using,for me there is no one brand that has it all,one thing is for certain,i would be embarassed to pull anything Ryobi out on a job,they make "Harry Home Owner" embarrassed

I knew someone was going to drop a flag on that one

, but simply put, yes lol. I got that Ryobi saw for cheap, if I was going to spend the money on DeWalt I would expect something over the quality that they provide...at least in my eyes. I knew what I was getting when I got that Ryobi table saw for dirt cheap used....I was getting a dirt cheap used Ryobi.

But for $680 for a 12" slider, IMO, the money is much better spent on a Bosch or maybe the new Milwaukee. Their drywall gun felt to me like it was a Ryobi in hand with the plastic nose piece and the fact it didn't run all that smooth. It sounded and felt like it was chewing itself up in my hands... The circ saw? I unno, I just never liked it, could never get the hang of it but like I said, that was prob on me. And like said before about the cordless....the batteries just don't do it.

However, to each their own, I don't look down on DeWalt users...I am just stating my opinion...was it a little off topic...yeah..I saw a tangent in the thread and ran with it...sorry about that.

I also agree there is no one BEST tool maker...unless Werner starts up with the Festool

which I don't own ANY of.

I just feel Dewalt is a brand that makes OK tools but charges alot of money for them and gets away with it b/c of marketing. I will give them this tho, that new 10" slider with alot of capacity did catch my eye....

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Originally Posted by IHI

... i could give two ****s about being the "cool" contractor because of the color of my tools,

Very true, let my final product be the judge of my skills...while I believe professionals looks better with professional tools, but if they can produce fine quality work with "lesser" tools...so be it...