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Pro
Trade: Registered Home Improvement Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Jersey
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Levels
I just "lost"
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I like Green things
Trade: Custom Carpentry Services
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In a van, down by the river. Auburn, IN
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Re: Levels
Just spend the money on a 2 pack of Stabila's. Just got numbers #3 and #4 last week. I got the 32" with the 78" for 119.00 +tax. That is not to bad when the 32" is $80.00 by itself. As long as you dont let them get stolen you will never have to buy another level.
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Pro
Trade: Registered Home Improvement Contractor
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Location: South Jersey
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Re: Levels
Which is part of my fear, I am thinking of buying the cheaper levels for basic jobs, and just using the stabila's when I know they will be accounted for.
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LRG WoodCrafting
Trade: Master Sawdust Producer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
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Re: Levels
I've got 2 older craftsman levels (2' & 4'), aluminum "I" beam style. These are the levels I trust. I don't know how the new ones are though.
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Curmudgeon
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
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Re: LevelsQuote:
stack 'em and read 'em I'll bet you get 4 different stories. If you know how to "swap ends" to check for true, you can go through their stock and keep checking til you get a true one. (Kind of a PITA in a store) OR Buy a Stabila, it will be good out of the box and stay that way if you give it a little respect. Even if you don't, they'll make it right. Life is short, buy good tools.
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Pro
Trade: remodeling general contractor
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: Levels
Definately a quality product, but only as good as the treatment you give it, like most higher accuracy tools. If your idea of picking up is to throw everything in the back of a truck or van and chunk the tablesaw and compressor on top, just spend half as much and buy a Johnson , or Stanley , or such, and throw them away every year.
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Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
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Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
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Re: LevelsQuote:
Empire......is as likely as not lying to you right off the shelf. Try it next time you're around a display. So glad I stumbled on one I don't need to check out before I buy it. (I do anyway)
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I'm a Mac
Trade: ICF Construction
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hog Town
Posts: 3,238
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Re: Levels
I use a variety of 4' to get things close during the initial build, before the concrete pour I tighten every thing up with a 8' Stabila, check everything after the pour with the Stabila then put it away till the next job. I also have a 4' digital Stabila, calibrate it and check my others every once in a while, the 8' is always bang on, the cheap 4' (Fat Max, Empire) etc, are close but not 100%
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Trade: Building and Remodeling
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CONNECTICUT
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Re: Levels
Spirit Levels
STABILA spirit levels will maintain their stated accuracy for life. The vials on all STABILA levels will not fog, leak, or become inaccurate. If they do, you will be given a new level. Bent frames void warranty. |
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Palisade Point Const.
Trade: Remodeling/Finish/Framing/Log
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bozeman MT
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Re: Levels
I've seen a stabila spirit level that was off- it wasn't agreeing with my spirit level, so I figured it was mine, because it's just a cheap husky from hd, but I checked both of them by setting them so they read level, then swapping ends, and mine was spot on, while the stabila was slightly off. I've actually been pretty impressed with the husky levels- I have a couple of them, and they always read correct, plus they have the side view window for plumb. I also have a stabila plate level for when I need longer than 4'.
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Pro
Trade: Registered Home Improvement Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Jersey
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Re: Levels
This is the kick I was looking for. Ill go Monday morning and buy them...BTW whens the next TA meeting, it has been too long since my last one.
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Trade: Building and Remodeling
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The Grand Wazoo
Trade: It blowed up real good!
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Illinois
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Re: Levels
I use my Stabila levels to check the accuracy of my laser, if the laser doesn't jive with the Stabila it goes in for calibration.
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Trade: remodeling general contractor
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Re: Levels
I'm not disputing the superior accuracy of the Stabila, just making the point that it's just a waste on money to buy a precision tool, if you are a person who doesn't take care of them.
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Trade: Log Home Construction/College Student
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern New Hampshire
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Re: Levels
Worth every penny you pay for them. I'm saving up for the plate level. My father had an employee drop his 72" level down a flight of stairs, he sent it in and got a new one minus shipping. Johnson are good too, I believe their both owned by the same company just one is high end the other is not quite.
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Trade: Thoroughbred Roofer
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Levels
Stabila all the way.
Money-wise, the "sets" are better and what good is it to buy cheaper levels at 1/2 or 1/3 the price if they won't last you a year? By the 3rd year, your already spending Stabila money anyway. All on Amazon. There's a 5 Set Pack that as a 10"/16"/24"/32"/59" with case for $300. delivered. ![]() There's also the Magnetic Jamber Set for my longer and metal framing needs with a 78"/32" w/case Set for $240. delivered. ![]() And the 12' w/case Plate Level @ $275. ![]() And to round it out to a nice $830. with a "pocket" level...pick this up for about $15. ![]() It's like I always say... "A real Timex is better than a fake Rolex anyday."
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Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
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Re: LevelsQuote:
I just don't know how to think like one of them. ![]() ![]()
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ContractorTalk Flunkie
Trade: Remodeling and Renovation Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Murphy, NC Hometown of Eric Rudolf
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Re: Levels
WARNING!
Once you use a Stabila level and experience the trustworthy accuracy and durability of their levels. You'll never purchase another cheap level again. Very much worth the money, even if you are one that don't take care of your tools.
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Trade: Plumbing & Gas Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma city
Posts: 1,178
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Re: Levels
I've always used the Craftsman 4 vial levels that have the vial for Grade/Fall also.I have the Torpedo,2' and 4'.
It is nice to know there are other options though should the need arise. |
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Trade: Lic. GC/Remodr - Commercial/Residential/Industrial
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
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Re: LevelsQuote:
Stop with the level ****! ..... I can't take it anymore.... (drooling over the magnetic jamber set)
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