Which Large Hilti Hammer/Chipping Drill?

bcradio

they make pretty darn good quality tools

I'd rather buy a new one in ten years with all the new features though and pay less than Hilti

Tools are like any other piece of technology (like computers), they need to be replaced or upgraded every so often

KillerToiletSpider

How many upgrades are they gonna make to a rotary hammer drill? It either drills concrete or it doesn't, your philosophy makes zero sense to me. I went the Makita, Bosch, etc. route once, and got tired of paying for repairs and replacements every two to three years, and dealing with delays because the tool was down and not in service. I do not have that problem with my Hilti tools, and they will upgrade them for a fraction of the cost of buying a new tool should I choose to take that option.

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XanadooLTD

Killer completely agree. I had a Bosch Demohammer and needed to dril 5" holes in concrete. I talk to the Bosch dealer, he tells me i need to buy another drill.
I call my Hilti rep up and he tells me that he has a chuck for me that turns by breaker into a rotary drill. A few bucks as compared to a few hundred bucks. Bottom line is the only people who bash Hilti are the people that can't afford them and are P.O.d about it. Woodworking i understand that Festool has the market, but as a non "tools of the trade" opinion and an opinion by most of the top contractors Hilti is number 1 followed by Bosch at #2. And not that closely #2.

jiffy

Tools change...quality changes, etc. If you went to world of concrete you would have seen the Hilti guys walk of shame. I saw the Makita booth and the Hilti guys were there watching their hammer get beat by a long shot. They apparently claimed foul, went and got a new hammer with their bit, tested it head to head with the Makita. Makita by a long shot.

Hilti is a good tool, but you can't count out every other brand if you haven't been paying attention to the newer stuff coming out.

Tom M

Anyone, Nathan------Know who these advertisers are on this webpage. I found a tool I'm interested in here on the site. It says brand new 2008 product under warranty till 2010. It was 300 bucks cheaper than the store. Something seems too good to be true here. Also a 7 day return policy and the whole paypal protection. I am weary of buying something like this online.

bcradio

STRONGLY AGREE with you here.... I think killertoiletspi and xanadooltd need to come out of the dark ages (or stay in the dark ages for all I care)

If I can finish a job in 1 hour with a bosch or dewalt vs. 3 hours with a Hilti... I will GLADLY (I REPEAT GLADLY) replace the tool in 5 years vs. say 7 to 10 for a Hilti.

The time saved alone would be worth it (and yes other competitors are MUCH faster than Hilti).

Best of luck to you with your slower hammers!

Oh ya and xanadooltd... you should try buying the right tool in the first place (it'll save you that few dollars you spent on the new chuck)

In response to the how many upgrades question... you never know, the electro-pneumatic hammering tool is fairly new and they can be made smaller, lighter, more powerful, etc.... we'll have to just wait and see...

KillerToiletSpider

This discussion was about large demo hammers/ drills, not demolition hammers. If you want a demolition hammer you don't want electric, you want air, there is not an electric demo hammer made that can compete with a 90 lb Hitachi air hammer.

Bosch and Makita don't come close in the product this discussion was intended to be about.

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bcradio

I'm talking about any electric hammering device (other than a regular hammerdrill which is not the same)

(use your brain... a demo hammer IS a demolition hammer... I think you meant breaker hammer)

I, however, do not do road construction so I have no need for a 90lb pneumatic breaker... a demo hammer is all I need

If I have to drill a hundred holes in concrete I want it done as fast as possible though, thats why I DO NOT want Hilti which will slow me down over the competition (I am mostly talking about Dewalt not bosch or makita)

Joining_heads

Dewalt is not to be included in this conversation. We are talking about tough, quality tools.

jiffy

I will put my Makita HR4010C up against a Hilti TE-76 any day, which is what we are talking about in this discussion. We can have a drill-off party. I'll buy the beer with the extra money I have saved not buying Hilti.

KillerToiletSpider

And fifteen years later you will have bought 3 or 4 Makita's and I'll still be using the same Hilti, but to each his own.

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bcradio

I'll put my DeWalt or my Bosch up against any Hilti, Makita, or Milwaukee any day as well... and in 15 years they'll still be running strong

(assuming we're using the same 110v 60hz power grid we use today )

XanadooLTD

I agree Bosch is a bad mamma jamma.

allelectric

In 30 years of construction, I found that there are very fews things you can count on from one job to the next to the next, etc. As far as tools go, Hilti is unquestionably one of these rare things. In nearly every area that Hilti produces equipment, it is top notch. I've found that if I buy Hilti, I don't have to ask around or do research, it will be a very good, reliable tool. When it comes to hammers, particularly rotary hammers, the only real competition has been Bosch, but they just don't seem to be built as tough, even tough their performance is good. The only electric hammer I haven't tried is Kango, but I have heard that they are decent.

I got into Hilti after finding that most rental shops would only buy Hilti, and asking them why. It's because they do the job well and will last forever.