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Old 04-03-2015, 01:18 PM   #41
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I imagine if Mr Gass jag his way, the technology would be mandated all the way to benchtop drill presses. Much less shapers.
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Old 04-03-2015, 01:24 PM   #42
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This is really set up for class action lawsuits. We'll see how that goes. In the mean time, I doubt his solution is the only practical one, at least for TSs. I don't see it being put into circ saws, though - it'd have to be done differently. I also think an alternative could be developed to work with wet wood.
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Yes, but then it's just a regular saw....
If I were expecting to work with wet lumber on a regular basis I wouldn't bother buying one. Wouldn't suit the application very well. I use ours for finishing materials and its set up on site for weeks at a time. We have a much less bulky rigid for any rough carpentry. The few times we need a table saw in a framing it's easier to set that up.

It's not my money that bought it though, if I were buy a table saw for myself it wouldn't be a saw stop. Too pricy for my situation.
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I spent 13 years working in a stair building mill shop and I've seen some really talented wood workers have gnarly table saw accidents. I've run every type of crazy shaper situation and have done a lot of things that should have bitten me hard. That said most people including most site carpenters have no training on how to properly use a table saw. I don't have a saw stop but I think they're great for what they are. With a proper outfeed table and room to move and an assortment of task specific push blocks conventional saws can be very safe. When i'm on site I don't have all that set up. I use my track saw way more than a table saw now because it's safer. From what I've seen on job sites saw stops would help a lot. I've seen a guy drop his forearm onto the blade on a job where I was a subcontractor. It was a sight I will never forget
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I've heard a couple lawsuits are in the work because the saw didn't stop but must be rare. Also hard to prove if you can disable the safty.
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When i'm on site I don't have all that set up. I use my track saw way more than a table saw now because it's safer.
Easier to move around, and takes less room for the same rip.
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i have an older dewalt portable now and am tempted to buy one of the new smaller ones either a Bosch or Dewalt but I hardly use it. I would probably use it more if I had a smaller model. For real material cutting I take it to a true shop saw and cut away. I've been checking out that little Bosch though.
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Never throw caution to the wind.

I drive like all other drivers are incompetent idiots doing anything but the task of driving.

I think of electricity as a defibrillator for titans which if it touched me i would be vaporized by it.

I treat power tools as if they were designed to mindlessly destroy everything in thier path.

Treat law enforcement officers as if they intend to send me to a Cuban based facility.

A little respectful mindfulness of the task you are doing goes a long way.

A power saw is designed to cut steel and ipe, my skin is cut by paper. I never forget my place.

And i have shot myself with a finish nailer on more than 1 occasion, now i am mindful of where fastener is in relation to my hands, lol. Just because i want it to go does not make is factual, lol.
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table saws and chain saws scare me the most. Doesn't mean I'll stop using it, but push sticks and a good site layout are key to safety. Using a table saw on uneven ground, not having enough space to work, and bad lighting all are unsafe.
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Never throw caution to the wind.



I drive like all other drivers are incompetent idiots doing anything but the task of driving.



I think of electricity as a defibrillator for titans which if it touched me i would be vaporized by it.



I treat power tools as if they were designed to mindlessly destroy everything in thier path.



Treat law enforcement officers as if they intend to send me to a Cuban based facility.



A little respectful mindfulness of the task you are doing goes a long way.



A power saw is designed to cut steel and ipe, my skin is cut by paper. I never forget my place.



And i have shot myself with a finish nailer on more than 1 occasion, now i am mindful of where fastener is in relation to my hands, lol. Just because i want it to go does not make is factual, lol.

I agree with pretty much everything on here, and it's exactly how I act and treat others/tools. I've not been bitten by a curled nail but I HAVE seen wicked curls and I know how hard they are at times to pull out of wood- thinking about that sticking me in a bad curl gives me the creeps. The only thing I need to be better about is starting 2.5-3" screws with my impact in stuff. Sometimes the but jumps, I slam the bit into the work surface. Only once been caught but it still happens. It is DEFINITELY about respect and paying attention to the task at hand. When I'm driving, 95% of the time I'm asking people to repeat what they said to me over and over because I'm paying more attention to the road, where I'm going, and other drivers more than people with me. Same with tools.
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They work well, yep they are safe, cut wet lumber and it's gonna cost ya a 75-80 cartridge and a blade as well. Sometimes you don't know what is too wet. You have to use the silly bypass procedure each time you stop the blade for each cut. Recently it has been a success at saving wet lumbers life a couple of times to the tune of a few hundred dollars, and it saved a tapes life one time....
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I'm curious how that violent stopping of the blade affects stuff like bearings and guide bushings. Is there a limit to how many activations a saw can handle before parts gave to be replaced?
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They work well, yep they are safe, cut wet lumber and it's gonna cost ya a 75-80 cartridge and a blade as well. Sometimes you don't know what is too wet. You have to use the silly bypass procedure each time you stop the blade for each cut. Recently it has been a success at saving wet lumbers life a couple of times to the tune of a few hundred dollars, and it saved a tapes life one time....
I hope it saved a 30 dollar fat max tape and not some cheap pos.
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They work well, yep they are safe, cut wet lumber and it's gonna cost ya a 75-80 cartridge and a blade as well. Sometimes you don't know what is too wet. You have to use the silly bypass procedure each time you stop the blade for each cut. Recently it has been a success at saving wet lumbers life a couple of times to the tune of a few hundred dollars, and it saved a tapes life one time....

Sounds like you should be mad at yourself. Not the saw. The tool is doing exactly what it's designed to do.
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Sounds like you should be mad at yourself. Not the saw. The tool is doing exactly what it's designed to do.
It's designed to not cut skin...the wet lumber and tape measures is more of an inconvenience.
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It's designed to not cut skin...the wet lumber and tape measures is more of an inconvenience.

It's designed to detect inconsistencies in the electrical current passing through the blade. It's assumed that the user will use the tool understanding how it works.

That's like saying a recip saw is only supposed to cut wood and getting mad at the tool when you cut through wires and water lines.
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It's designed to detect inconsistencies in the electrical current passing through the blade. It's assumed that the user will use the tool understanding how it works.

That's like saying a recip saw is only supposed to cut wood and getting mad at the tool when you cut through wires and water lines.
No it's more like if the recip saw had an 80 dollar module that would get set off upon detection of electrical inconsistencies.
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No it's more like if the recip saw had an 80 dollar module that would get set off upon detection of electrical inconsistencies.
A couple good quality push blocks, like the micro jig grrr-ripper, will keep a persons hands and fingers safe and secure for about 60 bucks each.
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A couple good quality push blocks, like the micro jig grrr-ripper, will keep a persons hands and fingers safe and secure for about 60 bucks each.

I was looking at them the other day. They look pretty cool.
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I was looking at them the other day. They look pretty cool.
I have the 3D pushblock for my TS and two of the push pads for my jointer/shaper/BS, etc.

They are fantastic, give you great control and they are made in the US.

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