Joist Hanger Nailer

hatchet

You are right - you said hanger nails and I was saying Teco as in hand driven nails. I think you're confusion was brought on by me I'm pretty sure the Teco nail got it's name from Timber Engineering Company (TECo) many years ago. They were some kind of early developers of some of the structural wood connection hardware. Don't quote me on that - but pretty sure that's right. They are called something else now can't remember.

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maj

Thanks for the info, I just did a google search for tico nails(wrong spelling) and got nothing. I'll try teco and see what I find. I like knowing the history of construction terms. As far as teco goes, I always thought it was teco, but have also seen tico & tiko.

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ApgarNJ

I have the Paslode positive placement gun and love it.
it shoots 1 1/2 heat treated nails. believe the size it .148 and it also has 2 1/2" for the diagonal holes in hangers.
not very often to I switch to the longer nails.

on the job we just finished framing, small addition that we had to alter some existing trusses in this attic that we were attaching our additiong too. the engineer spec'ed this hanger for the new ridge and it had like 20 nails on each side into the face, and about 5 diagonal up each side. he wants us to take out 60% of the 1 1/2" .148 sized joist hanger nails and put in 16d commons in there. i asked him, what if we weren't even going into something that was more than 1 3/4" thick, how can they make you put that long of a nail in.

there is just no way with the way he OVER built this alteration to the truss system, that 30-35 nails into a LVL gusset holding this new ridge up is going to pull out. it'll never happen. he can bring up all this engineering talk, but i know construction and this will never pull out. there isn't even much of a load on it. he's nuts.
we even toe nailed the piss out of the thing with 12 D before we even put the hanger up. it woudl take a major cat 5 to take this puppy down. and then who really cares if the hanger held, when the rest of the building is in pieces.

on edit,
this gun is the best time saver I've ever purchased out of any tools. I use it for just about every hanger we come in contact with. just wear glasses because it tends to shoot a lot of crap at you. the nails do go through the metal even if you miss the hole in the hanger. not recommended that way, but it does happen when sometimes. the nails aren't cheap, about 110 bucks a box. but the labor you save is worth it. it will pay for itself in a job or two, depending on the size.
i remember when i first started in the business, my old boss telling me to take this box of loose teco nails and this box of hangers and don't come back until all the holes are filled.

Charubim

Thanks for the topic, had an inspection with the city and builder and inspector removed several nails on the track home to verify the correct ones were being used and ran into a few problems.

Tico nails were being used at Simpson hardware connection when the member they were being fastened into was 2x. Simpson catalog does not specify less then 8d (0.131"x2 1/2") for connectors so I was asked to verify it worked. After looking around at what a Tico nail was and its dimensions then comparing with the Simpson catalog found that there is a adjustment factor for using 0.131" x 1 1/2" nail on face mount hangers that is 0.86 (2007 catalog).

So if the hanger can be supported by a single 2x member then a adjustment factor of 0.86 shouldnt be a big deal but contact your engineer to make sure.

WhyNotFab

Paslode Positive Placement, and recently started using a wayyy smaller/wayy lighter gun made by Bostich, works great and you can get it into much tighter spaces.

Timuhler

I've had the chance to use the new Bostitch guns, the two Hitachi guns, the new Grex gun and the Paslode for a few months.

If I was buying a gun today it would be the Bostitch gun that shoots both the 1 1/2" and 2 1/2" nails. If I could, I'd buy both because that little gun that shoots the 1 1/2" nails is light and easy to use.

The house we are framing now probably has more than 50 joist hangers, not counting the floor joists that were hung in the back, so I'm guessing when its all told, it'll be more than 100 hangers total. A gun will pay for itself petty quickly I think.

Both Hitachis are nice too. After using the lighter guns, the Paslode is a bit brutish. It is just too heavy. We've owned the Paslode for about 5 or 6 years. When the old model died we bought the new model. Then all the other guns came out :-)

But any gun is better than no gun.

Stay tuned for a review

Later I can dig up some pictures of the guns if anyone wants them.

sandra h

When I started in construction we bought Joist Hanger nails in boxes that stated TECO on them so we always called them TECO nails if fact I actually read the box once and it really said "Teco Tested" teco being the testing agency that certified the nails so the common term teco nail was born

overanalyze

We have one of the first Senco metal hanger nailers. It shoots 1 1/2" and 2 1/2" nails. It is a beast..heavy and large. If it ever quits working it will be a happy day when I replace it with the newer smaller lighter models available now.

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413Sean

paslode positive placement nailer used here bought it several yrs back and man do i laugh noW remebering the days of hand bangin em or using the palm nailer!!

Californiadecks

Do they make galvanized hanger nails for gun?

CO762

Hammer and screwgun (<<-- not a framer or deck guy).

Californiadecks

Just thinking about buying a joist hanger nailer I have every other nailer you can possibly think of but haven't been sold on the hanger nailer just yet.
Any options?

Californiadecks

I meant any opinions?

Ninjaframer

Just bought bostich strapshot. I'll let ya know once I try it

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Californiadecks

What led you to bostich

Ninjaframer

Heard it was good and only $180

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wallmaxx

Ditto

160AB

I bought a brand called Griprite from Hillhurst Hardware in Calgary cost me $330 but it is awesome worth every penny. Paid for itself in labour time very quickly, very powerfully shot. Is categorized as a positive placement nailer which basically means the nail protrudes out of the gun slightly to allow you to push it into the hole in the hanger. It shoots 1.5 hanger nails that come in paper backed strips.

Californiadecks

I'm sure you are all familiar with Simpson A35's they take a smaller teko (#8) than a hanger does (#10) can you buy these gun nails in different thicknesses?

Californiadecks

Or should I ask does this gun shoot different size nails?