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Hoseless Finish Nailer
I finally am going to buy a cordless nailer, I dont want to buy a dewalt, but I hear the pasalodes misfire often enough to make it a hastle. I also dont like having to wory about fuel, and battery.
I dont want to buy the dewalt because 1.I do not own any dewalt cordless, only bosch, so battery is a problem, but would be a problem anyway, because bosch doesnt make nailer 2.I feel like I would be selling out if I bought Dewalt Is there any other option that relies solely on batteries, and is good quality?
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
I assume you are looking for finish nailers?
Look into the Senco's. I have all Senco nailers, from coil framer, 1/4" crown stapler, to finish nailers, and everything in between.. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish NailerQuote:
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
I don't have the cordless yet, but it WILL be the one I get this summer.
Otherwise, my Sencos do a nice job. Only one I have to rebuild quite often is the 1/4" crown stapler. I use it in cold weather for soffits, and that seems to bust it up inside. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
anyone else use this gun?
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
We only use the paslodes cordless nailers. I have never tried the Senco, but would definately like to. The Paslodes are ok, but they are not able to just repeated shoot nail after nail at the pace we trim houses. We are always waiting for the gas in the chamber to evacuate or refill. It becomes quite a hassle sometimes. But overall, I still like them. They are about 10 times faster than hauling a hose and compressor around with us.
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
I also use the Dewalt angled. I wouldn't want to lug it all day but for what I use it for it is great.
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
Have the paslode and the dewalt. The dewalt blows the passlode away hands down. Paslodes do not work well in cold weather. The gas will not fire if its too cold.
The dewalt is a great gun with seemingly few problems so far. I've probably ran about 2 cases of nails through the dewalt. The only problem I've noticed is that with the 2 1/2 " nails when you get to the last dozen or so in the rack they tend to jamb up. The feeder that pushes the nails seems like its up too high and the bottoms of the nails kick forward and cause a misfire. Not too big an issuse though just refill before you get that low. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
Use the Dewalt too and it has been flawless and a God send. The only problem with it is they don't make a brad nailer like it yet, but I'll be the first guy in line to buy one as soon as they do. You'd think the brad nailer would have been a no-brainer if they can make the finish nailer?
KOC - you might have to come over to the dark side... not sure how buying a tool that makes you money and keeps you fresher longer is selling out... I don't have a problem like you do with the batteries since I'm packing 9 of them now. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
We've had Paslode corless framing and brad nailer in the arsenal for approx 10yrs and the brad nailer has been the most trouble free of the bunch. It's true in cold weather they dont like to perform (under 32*F) but if you stick a new cartidge in them then they're fine. Right now they're all still working just fine, have taken a TON of abuse with roof slide offs and ladder drops and never once skipped a beat, have gotten all 6 batteries to the point of needing replacement however since we've literally worn out the contacts and must now use a wood shim in the gun to keep batteries in contact with the gun electronics LOL!!
Stuck in a rut, there might be better out there I'm sure of it, but since all of ours are still going strong and serve the purpose with minimal headaches I wont be buying a different brand anytime soon. Only draw back I don't like-brad head sizes. I've become very particular with my finish work and I hate having a hole left behind that really sticks out even with like colored filler. Recently bought a cordless air compressor to run my 18ga porter cable brad nailer for the smaller door/window jobs and absolutely love the smaller hole it leaves. When installing grainey wood there are often times I have to go over the piece a few times to find all the holes left behind...me likey that aspect and they also are less prone to blow outs when pinning miters together also. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
I use paslode impulse angled finish and frame nailers and haven't experienced the misfire issue yet. Have only used them indoors so I don't know how it responds to cold weather. Can't really say that I've run production trim with it, as I would fire up the compressor for the larger jobs. Used them for 4 years now and still shooting fine with regular oils and cleanings, and I will venture to say I've missed quite a few oils and cleanings in the duration. I don't shoot repetitively on a fast pace with it.
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
Our Paslode angled trim nailer misses the nailhead quite often, even after factory reconditioning and updates. The driver slips off the nail and leaves it out 1/8 to 1/4. I don't recommend it for regular trim work. Hoses are a hassle, but I haven't seen anything that shoots as reliably or as quickly as air tools.
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
go with the paslodes. i've been using them since day one in the business and don't regret a thing. i have the framer and the straight finish gun, although when that one is ready to be replaced, i'll probably go with angled one. i hardly ever have misfires, not heard of anyone having major problems with paslode guns. as long as you clean them often as they recommend, then you'll be fine. most times, as we are trimming out the job, i'll have an air nailer with 2 or 2 1/2 nails in it, with the gas compressor running outside, and then a paslode with shorter nails in it, for nailing into window jams etc. so i never have to switch nails in the gun. paslode framer isn't meant for nailing subfloor or other materials wher eyou are nailing at a very fast rate, but for most framing, it can keep up no problem.
i would steer clear of the dewalt, jmo. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
I have used a number of airless guns but you cant beat Pnuematics for power and reliability. I bought a senco 1 gal. 1 hrs. senco compressor that came with an 18ga. nailer 5/8-2" and I use that for all my punchlist work. I also have a proter cable portair gun 15ga. battery operated with a small compressor biult in. I have found that that is to heavy to be a viable tool (it weighs as much as a framer)
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
King, Bought my first paslode finish nailer several years ago,( the angled one had not been invented yet) been very happy with it. Not as fast as a "hosed nailer" but I think that the conveinence makes up for that shortfall. Bought the framer about two years ago, just as happy. My framing though is pretty much limited to small decks and such. Very important to keep them clean! About a twenty minute job every couple of weeks if you are using them constantly. dlav
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Re: Hoseless Finish NailerQuote:
I've used both guns paslode and dewalt. Put alot of nails through both and I can honestly say I'll not be buying another paslode cordless gun. The paslodes are a maintaince headache. If you don't keep them clean regularly then you'll have issues. I've had 4 paslodes in use before the dewalts came out. Usually always had one out of the 4 in the shop for some type of service. Had to have a few ignitors replaced, had one fan quit, 2 guns had nail feed issues that a new spring wouldn't fix and the service center couldn't seem to find an answer. Nice big flat head screwdrive in the nail slot with a little pressure fixed that though. Also if you use them outside you have to keep the gas warm in the winter or they will not fire. I loved the concept they had but dewalt came out and capitalized on it. Dewalt's finish gun will shoot circles around any paslode. They will shoot almost as fast as a hosed nailer with no delays or depth of drive issues. No need to wait on the gas to cycle to fire the next nail. I've had almost no issues with the dewalt guns so far. Just had a few broken belts to replace but thats about it. When the dewalts first came out I was talking with my paslode rep about them. Obviously he was very against them and said to absolutely stay away from them. He said they had some cheap belt drive and it'll never work blah, blah, blah. Well I'm here to say they work pretty flawlessly and are far superior to the paslodes. |
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
Thanks guys. I bought a dewalt angled, and so far it has been awesome. I havent had any troubles with it yet.
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Re: Hoseless Finish Nailer
hi there; your statement is correct "I bought a dewalt angled, and so far it has been awesome. I havent had any troubles with it yet."
I bought mine the day they hit the stores and it has not missed a beat yet. My favorite thing is I pick it up from the shelf and it is ready to go in a few seconds every time it is needed. Dewalt does need to make a brad one soon. Joe |
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