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Old 04-28-2008, 04:15 PM   #1
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Was thinking of re working all of my old tools for some new ones. Anyone with any imput on the festool stuff ? I do so many different things i dont know if this investment would be for me.

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Old 04-28-2008, 04:58 PM   #2
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The only problem with Festool is that once you start buying them it is like crack, you just want more and more. If you want one brand of tools that every other tool that that company makes all work together and well, buy Festool. You will never regret one purchase. Their dust extractors are one of the most impressive tools I have ever owned. Get the system!!!! Faster, cleaner, smarter!!!

You wont go wrong going "green"
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One other thing to note is that the re-sale value of these tools is exceptionally high, 75%+ of orginal price, get one of their catalouges it has all tools and acc. and all the prices, there are no sales and no negotiating prices. You get what you pay for.
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I've had my eye on this stuff for a while! Just got the new catalog with new prices. The guy that does my painting got one of the sanders and it works twice as good as any of the US competition.

I'm looking at the Domino DF 500 Q joining system for about $800 bucks. Puts ANY biscuit jointer on the market to shame! I just need to sell one more built in job to justify it!
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The only problem with Festool is that once you start buying them it is like crack, you just want more and more. If you want one brand of tools that every other tool that that company makes all work together and well, buy Festool. You will never regret one purchase. Their dust extractors are one of the most impressive tools I have ever owned. Get the system!!!! Faster, cleaner, smarter!!!

You wont go wrong going "green"
Agree 1000% I bought into the system a couple of years ago and have not regretted it one bit. Plunge router is the best in the business bar none, as is the plunge cut saw & guide rail.
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Nothing compares to the plunge saw and guide rail. They make the best plunge routers hands down.
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Has anyone used the domino joining system? I got a chance to use the demo tool but using it for a longer time frame really tells the story. It seemed like a tighter fit than the biscuit. Can't imagine any down side to it other than the price!
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I've heard one of their cordless drills is an absolute beast.

And another vote for the plunge router, one of the best ever.
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My buddy has the Domino, it has a steep learning curve. It is a difficult tool to learn all of its functions, but there are some things that can only be made with it. He has a biscut jointer that cost almost as much as the Domino. It is a crazy piece of engineering. You should check out the cut away of it and see how it really works. Unbelieveable. It is on my list of must haves, actually so is most of the rest of the catalouge. I really really really want the Kapex when it comes out. Their tools save me time, reduce the mess to almost nothing and are so accurate it makes me wonder why I still buy other peoples tools.
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When you say they reduce mess is this because you purchased their vacuum and consistently hook it up to their tools?

What makes their vac system more user friendly? I always tend to think I will hook my vacuum up to my tools but I never actually do.

Do they have any type of power management system in their vacuum like the Bosch shop vac has? What happens when you are running the vac and one of their tools on a 15A circuit, does it pop a breaker, bog down the tool or manage the load?
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Yep, power management is built into the dust extractors. The tools themselves have circuitry that reduces the load to only what is necessary at the time as well. The vacs are extremely quiet, powerful, and with a hose caddy everything stores on board. The tools are designed with dust extraction as a main priority from the get-go instead of thrown on at the end like most others. I can use the plunge cut saw, sanders, or router inside someones home without covering up anything or using a zip wall....no dust period.
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My only complaint with Festool is I think they take advantage a little too much when it comes to the price of their consumables. Bags, filters, blades, vac accessories, sand paper, etc. are all proprietary and are very expensive imo.
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Consumables are a little pricey but their sandpaper is the best. It lasts longer than anyone elses, that is due to the fact that the sander is hooked to the dust extractor, it lets the sandpaper stay about 40-50 degrees cooler, thus no gumming up. Orson go to a store that carries their tools, they will let you play with them, no matter what if you buy something and you dont like it (not sure that would happen) you get a 30 day money back garuntee. Plus a 3 year warrenty.

I love great tools

Can we change the name of the thread to GREAT?
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Yep, power management is built into the dust extractors. The tools themselves have circuitry that reduces the load to only what is necessary at the time as well. The vacs are extremely quiet, powerful, and with a hose caddy everything stores on board. The tools are designed with dust extraction as a main priority from the get-go instead of thrown on at the end like most others. I can use the plunge cut saw, sanders, or router inside someones home without covering up anything or using a zip wall....no dust period.
Sorry to be nit picky, but I don't even know why you use those zip wall deals or do any cutting inside of the house where you need to worry about being clean.

I ALWAYS do all of my cutting or anything that makes a large mess outside

I could see it in Alaska since it gets so cold, but not Virginia
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Sorry to be nit picky, but I don't even know why you use those zip wall deals or do any cutting inside of the house where you need to worry about being clean.
I ALWAYS do all of my cutting or anything that makes a large mess outside
I could see it in Alaska since it gets so cold, but not Virginia
You do hardwood floors and do
all of the cuts outdoors?
Do you store the stock out there too?
Do you sand the floors outside as well?
Must be a bitch when you have to
haul 'em back inside.
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clean saves time, which makes me more money!
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Sorry to be nit picky, but I don't even know why you use those zip wall deals or do any cutting inside of the house where you need to worry about being clean.

I ALWAYS do all of my cutting or anything that makes a large mess outside

I could see it in Alaska since it gets so cold, but not Virginia


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You do hardwood floors and do
all of the cuts outdoors?
Do you store the stock out there too?
Do you sand the floors outside as well?
Must be a bitch when you have to
haul 'em back inside.
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Consumables are a little pricey but their sandpaper is the best. It lasts longer than anyone elses, that is due to the fact that the sander is hooked to the dust extractor, it lets the sandpaper stay about 40-50 degrees cooler, thus no gumming up. Orson go to a store that carries their tools, they will let you play with them, no matter what if you buy something and you dont like it (not sure that would happen) you get a 30 day money back garuntee. Plus a 3 year warrenty.

I love great tools

Can we change the name of the thread to GREAT?
What is funny is that in Norway ALL tools have a 30 day money back return BY LAW. How bizarre is that? Surprised me the first time I was told if I didn't like my new tools I could take them back for a refund no questions asked?
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You do hardwood floors and do
all of the cuts outdoors?
Do you store the stock out there too?
Do you sand the floors outside as well?
Must be a bitch when you have to
haul 'em back inside.
not really... never done hardwood flooring but I have done laminate flooring, but I do the cutting inside for this one since everything is already a mess anyways. (no need for zip walls here)

Also, I am not a floor guy but the floors I have done are usually an entire room (in my neck of the woods we don't usually put 2 or more types of floors in the SAME room, with the occasional exception, because that would be RETARDED looking IMO).

So I can say that I HAVE put plastic over a doorway to keep dust from other rooms but have had no need to have a zip-WALL setup or to worry about all the "amazing" dust-collecting abilities of Festool

For bulk sanding yes OBVIOUSLY I would do this outside cause its not a b--tch at all and like I said I haven't done hardwood floors (but if I did flooring for a living I would get one of these OBS-18DC by American Sanders... probably costs less than Festool hahaha). For smaller sanding I do inside and use portable shop vac for quick clean-up

So good luck to you guys buying over-priced tools because they're a little cleaner... construction/remodeling is a messy business

P.S. I shouldn't have said I always do my cutting outside... just most of the time

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Yep, power management is built into the dust extractors. The tools themselves have circuitry that reduces the load to only what is necessary at the time as well. The vacs are extremely quiet, powerful, and with a hose caddy everything stores on board. The tools are designed with dust extraction as a main priority from the get-go instead of thrown on at the end like most others. I can use the plunge cut saw, sanders, or router inside someones home without covering up anything or using a zip wall....no dust period.
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Sorry to be nit picky, but I don't even know why you use those zip wall deals or do any cutting inside of the house where you need to worry about being clean.

I ALWAYS do all of my cutting or anything that makes a large mess outside

I could see it in Alaska since it gets so cold, but not Virginia
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You do hardwood floors and do
all of the cuts outdoors?
Do you store the stock out there too?
Do you sand the floors outside as well?
Must be a bitch when you have to
haul 'em back inside.
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not really... never done hardwood flooring but I have done laminate flooring, but I do the cutting inside for this one since everything is already a mess anyways. (no need for zip walls here)

Also, I am not a floor guy but the floors I have done are usually an entire room (in my neck of the woods we don't usually put 2 or more types of floors in the SAME room, with the occasional exception, because that would be RETARDED looking IMO).

So I can say that I HAVE put plastic over a doorway to keep dust from other rooms but have had no need to have a zip-WALL setup or to worry about all the "amazing" dust-collecting abilities of Festool

For bulk sanding yes OBVIOUSLY I would do this outside cause its not a b--tch at all and like I said I haven't done hardwood floors (but if I did flooring for a living I would get one of these OBS-18DC by American Sanders... probably costs less than Festool hahaha). For smaller sanding I do inside and use portable shop vac for quick clean-up

So good luck to you guys buying over-priced tools because they're a little cleaner... this is a messy business though
Your original response(quoted above)
was to "Precision Floors" who does do
hardwood flooring.
And I'm sure that everyone in that business
would love to hear your methods
for sanding outdoors.
AS well as your methods for production
that allow all cuts to be made
outside.
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