Demolition Hammer Bosch Brute Makita HM1810 Hilti

plazaman

I need to purchase a jack hammer, something heavy duty and for heavy concrete removel. Its crazy, my little bosch cant handle the job, plus i have 4 air hammers (1 40 and 3 90lbs) yet i still need another.


Ive rented these in the past (the Bosch brute, works really well) but do you guys have a suggestion, any other brands? i really hate having to buy another, but every job is different, i really cant tow my compressor there and im wasting labor by using my bosch and wasting rental fees by renting.

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Rich

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KillerToiletSpider

Of all the 60 lb electric hammers I have used, the best in performance and durability was made by Wacker.

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jiffy

Makita 1810 is the answer your looking for. It has Real anti vibration in the way of a counter balance system internally. It also won Tools of the Trades vote as best big breaker. I would highly recommend it. When your using the hammer it almost feels like it isn't hitting hard because the anti vibration really does take a lot of the jarring away from the user.

KillerToiletSpider

Some of you guys put way to much faith in tools of the trade.

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jiffy

I put faith in Tools of the Trade as much as I put faith in reviews form users here, they are a source for another opinion. I have also used the Makita myself, side by side with the whacker and Bosch, and Dewalt, there is no comparison.

bcradio

that is because it is one of the only (if not the only) entity that will compare these tools fairly and tools that are in the same class.

most people on here say to buy a certain tool because they have one and it works well... that is not to say that a better tool is not out there.

also, most people who do compare high end tools that they have seen on job sites, do so with a tool that is say 10+ years old vs. their brand new tool (which is still not a fair comparison)

I also look at reviews on here, but TOT is a very good place to look as well.
I think you might need to look a little closer at that magazine/website.

KillerToiletSpider

I doubt it, I have replicated their tests on my own with friends and got completely different results than what they have, and durability is an area they don't address much at all. The greatest tool on the face of the Earth is worthless if it spends as much time in for repairs as it does on the job.

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plazaman

thanks guys, i got a good deal on the bosch so u purchased it. i mean, i dont break concrete everyday, but the times we do, it will pay for iteself over time. I just check HD, they have it listed for 1399+tax, i got mine for 1188 shipped to my door. cant beat that. Plus home depot rents them for 100 for 24 hrs. I spend way too much labor fighting the smaller bosch. I cant spend anymore rental fees. This would be rental number 4 on the hammer if i decided to rent again. I hate to spend this amount now, but i know it will be worth it in the long run.

Thanks for the input

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XanadooLTD

I completely agree with you on this. I have performed several tests also with our tools and friends or competitors and the results i get are different from tools of the trade. I'm telling you that different companies give money to skew the results on some tests.

415moto

Did you get the bosch brute? Where did you get it for at that price?
Any one have any inpuit on a 35-45lb breaker like the hitatchi or makita?

bcradio

that is true but virtually any job a power tool can do, you can do by hand yourself... so speed is the thing they add to the mix, and if a tool can do the job better and FASTER than a slightly more durable tool then I will go for it since speed is what the tools give us

as for durability, I usually tend to stick to brands that are known for durability... but you never know when you'll get a dud tool

I think its been too long since you and XanadooLTD have taken a science class because you would know that many variables come into play when experiments are being ran... therefore your results are almost never exactly the same every time. Also, you all need to use the same brand new blades/bits etc... and so on.

also things like all brand new batteries must be used to get accurate results... so I doubt on your job you all went out the same day and bought brand new tools in the same class to test like TOT does

KillerToiletSpider

I would put a lot more faith in a test of tools using older batteries and tools that were over a year old, as it would also help give you a clue on durability when compared to the test of a brand new tool.

I have my doubts to the thoroughness of their tests.

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bcradio

I strongly agree... someone should definitely start doing durability tests too cause to me that is just as important as speed (if not more so)

otherwise i'd buy all my tools at Harbor

plazaman

ebay! check they have a few listing for them "bosch brute"

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NICKPAUS

I bought the Bosch Brute 5 years ago and it still hits like new. It has paid off ten fold over the years and it makes it so much easier having it on hand than having to drive to rent then drop off. The Hilti works great if you need to break at an angle. It is easier to hold and operate. The Brute is more bulky than Makita but seems to hit a little harder. I have scored some good deals on tools off E-Bay but there are also alot of scams. Use Pay-pal or a Credit Card that is insured for theft or items not recieved.

kenhill3

I've also used the Brute and Makita electric breaker hammers. They work satisfactorily for smaller thickness/areas of concrete. But, in my experience nothing beats the shear power and speed of a 90# jackhammer powered by a 125hp tow-behind. With any larger quantity and/or thickness of concrete there is no substitute. Totally worth the rental fees, IMHO.

Am I missing something here?

plazaman

funny that you mention that, I have a 210 CFM compressor with 4 air hammers, 3 90s and 1 40. but sometimes it isnt practical to use it.

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jiffy

Sorry to hear you went with the Bosch. I can tell you the 1810 Makita is a nice tool, you don't feel like a jumping bean after you use it all day.

plazaman

bosch does the job fine. guys used it yesterday. I tried it out for 1 min this morning, not bad at all. I makita was around 300+ more. Im good with this one.

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