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Old 06-24-2010, 07:04 PM   #1
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HI guys,
I saw a picture a while back where someone had a small cabinet lift/jack that sat on the base cabinets usually on a slab of plywood and that helped install the uppers for odd or heavy wall units. I can't seem to find any cabinet jacks like that and only see the ones that are larger and sit on the floor.

Anyone know what I'm looking for?
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:16 PM   #2
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The Gillift cabinet lifter.


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that would work, the one I saw looked more like a box. maybe it was a home made job because it looked nothing like that. I just can't remember where I saw it.
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I used a door hanging tool to do this job,you can leval this tool it in any plane.I just placed it on top of the floor cabnets,then
I made a wooden bracket for it and clamped it in the tool.I placed wall cabnets on the bracket,and hung the cabnets
I have the details is you think it is of any use
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Third Hand, was a brand, and I think Fast Cap has something.
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Fastcap makes a short version of their Third Hand called the Upper Hand. I have a pair- they're sized to support uppers when set on base cabs and have the big 5x5 pads on them.

I know a carpenter who did a lot of installs who swears by building a pair of square boxes to the proper dimension that sit on the base cabs. If the base has been set level, then the boxes will too, just gang the uppers and set them on top and you should be awfully close. A shim or two between box top and cabinet can make any final adjustments. It seems like once in position it would be super stable as well.

The couple of times I have used the fastcaps for this I have felt a bit uneasy about the lack of stability, didn't want to take my hands off for a minute.
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Here is a web site in the Uk that stockes what you are looking for:UK.Cabinetparts.com
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I agree with what you are saying about Fast Cap They are only ajustable props The wooden box would do a better job
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that would work, the one I saw looked more like a box. maybe it was a home made job because it looked nothing like that. I just can't remember where I saw it.
Yeah, we talked about making
boxes to support uppers.
Plan it right and you can get
3 different hanging heights
in one box, depending on which
way you turn it.
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A pair of these work real nice.

http://www.amazon.com/FastCap-Little...7907105&sr=1-6
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Yeah, we talked about making
boxes to support uppers.
Plan it right and you can get
3 different hanging heights
in one box, depending on which
way you turn it.
Prior to getting my full size - floor model -Gil Lift , this was my system. Worked well for establishing the height of the cabinets and allowed a pretty calm install as I could tweak left or right and shim a little with complete confidence that the upper cabs were safe while I worked. Problem was I still had to get the cabinets on to the boxes. I like ganging as many uppers as is practical on the floor before lifting them to the wall. This just doesn't work with the box on base cabinet system. I can't imagine it would work with the lift shown in the photo or with third hands either. Certainly not if you are working alone. The full size Gil Lift is a tremendous tool. Very very high on my list of best tool purchases. I work mostly alone and the Gil Lift is my very best installer helper. Makes calm & easy, safe & accurate work of installing uppers & rolling around other heavy pieces into position. After the uppers are installed I use the lift as a movable & height appropriate table for holding tools or hardware while I set shelves & adjust upper doors etc. Lots of other unexpected uses too. I like it!
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We use the full lift that you can see in the picture on the right of the guy, and just install uppers first. This is the way I was always taught, and it saves a lot of wear and tear on the lowers.
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We use the full lift that you can see in the picture on the right of the guy, and just install uppers first. This is the way I was always taught, and it saves a lot of wear and tear on the lowers.
Mike - just curious - does this delay you getting your countertops templated and installed - thereby holding up completion?
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Mike - just curious - does this delay you getting your countertops templated and installed - thereby holding up completion?
That's an interesting point.

I suppose it could, however since we don't do a lot of kitchens, just for past clients that beg, and combine that with our counter top guys turn around stuff so freak'n fast it's ridiculous, it hasn't been an issue, but I could see how that could delay templating a day or two, so it could be an issue for someone.
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That's an interesting point.

I suppose it could, however since we don't do a lot of kitchens, just for past clients that beg, and combine that with our counter top guys turn around stuff so freak'n fast it's ridiculous, it hasn't been an issue, but I could see how that could delay templating a day or two, so it could be an issue for someone.
That's the only reason I always set base cabinets first. Get the guys in to template asap. Work on the uppers, appliances, trim, etc. Countertop in, backsplash, done.

I find it very advantageous when it is a complex layout, built up crown, etc, etc.

And I get a quick turn around on stone tops, but don't like to leave it to chance.
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Salvage from an Ikea kitchen install provided some adjustable height legs for an install device for uppers.
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We use T-Jaks I like them better than the fast-cap ones.
http://www.amazon.com/T-Jak-MB-101-M...8632376&sr=1-3

With the T-Jaks you can fine tune the up and down, with the fast cap one if you go to high and try to come down a little they come down all the way.
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Two plywood boxes - covered with thin carpet - measuring 15" x 16" x 18"

This (as mentioned before) gives three different install heights, and no marring of the counters.

I will also sometimes use 2 sticks, made of 2x3 cut about 4" longer than the bottom edge of the upper. Attach another small piece of 2x3 near the top. Cover in carpet.

This is jammed under the front edge of the cabinet, and will hold it in place while you fasten it.
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http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2010/...cabinet-jacks/
Anybody else see this?
Pretty cool if you are doing a lot
of installs.
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Check out the "ezspreadnlift" jack. Adjustable table makes it better than the Gilift. Had mine for about 5 years now.

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