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10-02-2006, 12:55 PM
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Plays Well With Numbers
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Antique Equipment
Hey everyone - I was wondering if anyone here was possibly an antique tool/equipment buff. My GC has a H.B. Smith Machine Co, From Smithville, NJ - 2 drum sander from around 1927, that still works, and you can still get parts for. He is going to sell it, along with other woodshop tools & equipment - but I did a research first on this sander and am not sure if it would be of more value to a collector or for actual woodshop use. I think it is an awesome piece of equipment. Below I am going to post pics of it - but it is not the actual peice. The pic I am posting is of a 3 drum sander from the 40's, ours is a 2 drum, it looks pretty much identical. The only other thing is our sander does not have the name plaque - but Smith Company, Smithville NJ is basically stamped/molded on the machine itself (hence dating it older)
Also - here is the link to a website I found. http://www.owwm.com/MfgIndex/Detail.asp?id=766
If you go to their home page - it is a pretty neat website - I will post a question in their forum as well.
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10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
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That is one big-a$$ piece of equipment. I'm a real homo for old tools, and have been collecting paperhanging tools for awhile now. Just did a presentation on the history of w/c tools at the NGPP convention. Myself and a guy from LA are going to start a webpage and try to catalog/categorize everything we have. I'll post a link when its up.
Oops, he already started it, right here.
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10-02-2006, 02:07 PM
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Plays Well With Numbers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProWallGuy
That is one big-a$$ piece of equipment. I'm a real homo for old tools, and have been collecting paperhanging tools for awhile now. Just did a presentation on the history of w/c tools at the NGPP convention. Myself and a guy from LA are going to start a webpage and try to catalog/categorize everything we have. I'll post a link when its up.
Oops, he already started it, right here.
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Cool stuff! I love looking at that stuff too, anything antique actually. It is usually simplistic in design, but the quality and craftmanship is excellent. All my mixing bowls and some baking dishes are vintage Pyrex - far back as the 40's. I get them off e-bay. Did you know Pyrex was "discovered" by the wife of a Corning Co physicist, who helped develop the glass battery jars, and heat resistant glass lanterns for the railroad. She wanted to try and bake in this glass - which is how pyrex was developed.  Cool stuff.
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10-02-2006, 08:46 PM
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The company that owns HB Smith now made my dining room table and chairs. They make "Colonial" (brand) furniture. It's super nice stuff. The wife and I took the factory tour.
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10-03-2006, 08:55 AM
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Plays Well With Numbers
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MD - I guess they bought Smith CO, because they wanted to make sure they could still get parts, etc for their millwork equipment. I have been researching the history. It's pretty neat.
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10-04-2006, 05:44 AM
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Antiques rule. I have a collection of antique hand tools that I try to add to all the time. Mostly getting Belknap Bluegrass stuff lately.
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10-04-2006, 01:18 PM
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When we were finishing up the building on the Major County Historical Society grounds, the antique tractor show was gearing up, and they wanted to know if I was entering my Lull forklift in the parade....that hurt!
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10-06-2006, 02:51 PM
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okay - a little more info. It was confirmed it was made in 1927, It weighs in at 10,000pds approx, and it is estimated that there are maybe 20-25 left. Only 50 total were built. My boss decided he wants to do an article of some sort in honor of his Dad - (showing him working with the machine) who is 80yo and still coming to the shop everyday, despite health problems, and doing his custom millwork.
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10-06-2006, 03:13 PM
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I collect old woodworking tools, mostly chisels and planes. Collect oddball tools too, sometimes it takes me a while to find out what they were for.
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10-06-2006, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProWallGuy
That is one big-a$$ piece of equipment. I'm a real homo for old tools, and have been collecting paperhanging tools for awhile now. Just did a presentation on the history of w/c tools at the NGPP convention. Myself and a guy from LA are going to start a webpage and try to catalog/categorize everything we have. I'll post a link when its up.
Oops, he already started it, right here.
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You paperhangers have been "partying" for a long-long time...
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08-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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I collect old electrical code books.
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08-28-2009, 06:34 PM
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I too am a card carying member of the old school tool fan club.
I watch different FYI shows that have guys using the mill(like in Little House) belts, water wheel and all doing various projects.
I have NO patience to try that but enjoy watching.
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08-28-2009, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtpro
I too am a card carying member of the old school tool fan club.
I watch different FYI shows that have guys using the mill(like in Little House) belts, water wheel and all doing various projects.
I have NO patience to try that but enjoy watching. 
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You know that is porn for most of us????
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08-28-2009, 06:43 PM
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Here are a few things handed down from my father. They belonged to my grandfather.
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08-28-2009, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer
Here are a few things handed down from my father. They belonged to my grandfather. 
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WOW!!!!!
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08-28-2009, 07:37 PM
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i have an antique Hitachi slide compound if anyone's interested
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09-05-2009, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
I collect old electrical code books.

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that cool i have from 1984 on
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09-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
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I collect old electrical code books.

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Love the way that the 2002 jumps in size so much. What you needed to know about your trade trippled lol  or is it just got bigger words?
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09-08-2009, 06:59 PM
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That's just plain scary. I don't even want to think about the parts a beast like that could take off. Damn right "don't stand behind the blade!"
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09-08-2009, 07:14 PM
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Electron Flow Manipulator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCConstruction
Love the way that the 2002 jumps in size so much. What you needed to know about your trade trippled lol  or is it just got bigger words?
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Far more than tripled. They got taller, wider and thicker.
1897: 4 x 6˝, 53 pages.
2008: 8˝ x 11, 822 pages.
I'll let you do the math.
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