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Registered User
Trade: Carpentry
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 2
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Two Story Foyer Opening
Hey guys,
I recenty was ask by a client to build a 2 story foyer out of a home was had a 2nd floor added about 7-8 yrs back. They want my partner and I to cut open part of the 2nd floor around the stairs and create the opening. The layout is such that when you open the front door the stairs are right in front of you and the living rm is to the left, dining rm to the back left... There is a wall to my right when I walk in and the client says to not remove it but to just cut the ceiling to the left of the stairs. I haven't given them an estimate yet because it sounds like there is some structural work to be done. We mostly do remodeling stuff but this is the 1st time someone wants a 2 story foyer in a older home. Anyone ever did this in a 50+ old home and remember how much they charge the client? Thanx |
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Member
Trade: Residential remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 76
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Well, You sir, sorry to tell ya, smell like a HO. I think you are on the wrong board. LA Armor Inc, which is in your profile is a fitness kinda company as far as I know, not a construction related business^^.
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General Contracting
Trade: Real Estate Broker, Property Manager
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LaGrangeville, NY
Posts: 1,137
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Yes, I remember exactly how much. Give me your customers name and address and I'll give them a quote.
![]() Come on! Seriously! That is your very first contribution to Contractors Talk?
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Chief Toilet Mover
Trade: Bathroom Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Posts: 14,078
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Last time I did that armoulue we charge them about $1700, the one we did had the dining room on the right hand side and living room on the left. That inculded everything but the dry wall. We let the homeowner do the drywall work. He supplied all the screws and nails for everything too so it saved him some there. Now this was a few years ago so you might want to knock off maybe 10% now. Hope this helps you.
Don't fall for LNG tricks don't give him your customer's name, he is known around here for stealing work from the newbies. He tried doing it to me last year. He drove all the way from NY to Colorado just to try to under cut me by $100 on a kitchen cabinet texturing job we were trying to get! He tried the same crap on a garage to basement conversion job not to long ago also. Last edited by Mike Finley; 01-07-2009 at 10:33 PM. |
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General Contracting
Trade: Real Estate Broker, Property Manager
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LaGrangeville, NY
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
actually I just ran a search on the NYS database for registered businesses and LA Armor Inc. IS NOT incorporated in NY.
LA Armor Inc. , did you know that it is a crime to falsely use INC (Incorporated) when you are not? Even if you are a HO pretending to be a contractor! |
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Sean
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
What gave it away - was it the sudden crack or creek of the lumber, or the 2nd floor resting on the first floor & that gigantic sucking sound centered around your wallet? If you are a contractor, call a structrual engineer in - period
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Registered User
Trade: Carpentry
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 2
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
We are a derivative of a roofing company in NY.
Didn't think I have to show you ref... buddy. If you can't help with a solution....
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General Contracting
Trade: Real Estate Broker, Property Manager
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LaGrangeville, NY
Posts: 1,137
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Hey, the name changed really quick too.
@ Mike: Wow for a Newbie you sure learned quick. Must have been those 9,000+ posts ya did here. Now stop warning the newbies or I am going to have to to ask for a Federal Bail Out. |
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Member
Trade: Residential remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 76
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
lol he removed LA Armor Inc from his profile. You guys crack me up
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Thom
Trade: General Contractor/Homebuilder
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Albuquerque NM
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
sounds like a pretty simple job. A chain saw and a large bucket of putty and 1 man will have it all done before lunch.
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General Contracting
Trade: Real Estate Broker, Property Manager
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LaGrangeville, NY
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Pro
Trade: Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Western PA
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Re: Two Story Foyer OpeningQuote:
This is a complicated (but not all that hard of a job) for professionals. Don't step in over your head. |
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Ant D.
Trade: Construction Management, General Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Fairfield county CT
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Everybody is way overthinking this. First of all the OP knows exactly what he is doing. That much is obvious. All you have to do is refer to your architect and engineer for the answers. I am 100% positive that you have one for such a complicated job right? If that fails, you should call your local building department. They will be more than happy to come out to your job and explain the plans and guidelines for such a project. They may charge you $5000-$10,000 for this consultation, and they may even call it fine or something, but ignore the symantics and pay up this will be invaluable information for you and your company.
I apologize but there is only so much I can advise without a set up drawings.
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Registered User
Trade: contractortalk.com
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
Don't fall for LNG tricks don't give him your customer's name, he is known around here for stealing work from the newbies. He tried doing it to me last year. He drove all the way from NY to Colorado just to try to under cut me by $100 on a kitchen cabinet texturing job we were trying to get! He tried the same crap on a garage to basement conversion job not to long ago also.
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Registered User
Trade: jim
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
LNG sounds like ur typical PIA contractor that doesn't get
any work. Don't let him discourage u from asking us. It sounds like u have a very typical question. We have done about 3 jobs like u mention... this summer. It doesn't cost much and its a pretty simple reno. |
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The Duke
Trade: Cabinet Maker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 10,101
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Re: Two Story Foyer Opening
if it walks like a duck.....
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I used to think so.......
Trade: My words are OPINIONS and hold no REAL value. 2012
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: WA State
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Re: Two Story Foyer OpeningQuote:
Now THAT's funny. I mean if you are removing part of a floor system, that might be part of the stair support or not....I'd say there'd be a lil' bit o' structural considerations goin' on thar. I've done similar work before (cut out a floor system near stairs into a basement)...and it is do-able. Be careful, smart and right. ![]() ![]() |
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