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04-30-2009, 07:16 PM
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Steel Framing Fasteners
I do a fair amount of steel framing, always used an impact driver. and self drilling zips, although I recently switched to self drilling wafer head screws.
Recently someone asked my why there wasn't a riveting system for installing them. So I did some research and actually found some articles on framing riveters. but I have been unable to find any for sale or find out who makes them... Any info there would be great. Also I found the versapin nailer that seems like a dream but as I looked closer at the site seems all they make is for 18g and thicker... I frame with 20g Interior mostly.... I do very little exterior steel framing, so not really worth buying the setup for it...
So questions are ...
Whats the fastest setup you know of for steel framing 20g... riveter, nailgun?..
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04-30-2009, 08:21 PM
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Coming out of the closet
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Paslode has/had a coil nailer for that exact use. The nails had special rings grooved into them to hold tight. Check it out.
Edit.... The nailer I was thinking of is designed for wood to metal framing.
Last edited by ClosetPro; 04-30-2009 at 08:48 PM.
Reason: Fact checking my post....I was wrong.
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04-30-2009, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orca
I do a fair amount of steel framing, always used an impact driver. and self drilling zips, although I recently switched to self drilling wafer head screws.
Recently someone asked my why there wasn't a riveting system for installing them. So I did some research and actually found some articles on framing riveters. but I have been unable to find any for sale or find out who makes them... Any info there would be great. Also I found the versapin nailer that seems like a dream but as I looked closer at the site seems all they make is for 18g and thicker... I frame with 20g Interior mostly.... I do very little exterior steel framing, so not really worth buying the setup for it...
So questions are ...
Whats the fastest setup you know of for steel framing 20g... riveter, nailgun?..
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is screwing them with a button really that slow that you need to look for something faster?
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04-30-2009, 10:38 PM
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Look into the TecPin fastening systen from ITW Ramset, or the systen fron MAXX. They both have pneumatic fasteners or gas fasteners like a Paslode that have ICBO ratings to macth up with the fastener.
Trace
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04-30-2009, 10:43 PM
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Hey, I did'nt answer the question. the above are great systems, but not a hell ua lot faster than, a screwgun and K- Lath screws, if that is not fast enuf look @ the Grabber Super Drive it has all of the ICBO"s and easy to get. If you are lucky the vendors in your area will have the TF1100 and TePins, but really only good for 30-33 mil studs or heavier 
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05-01-2009, 12:16 AM
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As with any DIY home improvement, a few hints or tips can go a long way towards making the project a roaring success. Building a steel shed starts just as any other building project would. Steel sheds are built from the bottom up. In this case, the bottom meaning the pad or foundation. Pouring a concrete slab is a bit too strenuous a job for most homeowners. It is recommended that you hire a masonry contractor for this part of your building endeavor. Still, there are a few things you will want to do in this phase, in order to make the actual assembly of your steel shed go more smoothly.
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05-01-2009, 12:35 AM
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Coming out of the closet
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Originally Posted by Barkri12
As with any DIY home improvement, a few hints or tips can go a long way towards making the project a roaring success. Building a steel shed starts just as any other building project would. Steel sheds are built from the bottom up. In this case, the bottom meaning the pad or foundation. Pouring a concrete slab is a bit too strenuous a job for most homeowners. It is recommended that you hire a masonry contractor for this part of your building endeavor. Still, there are a few things you will want to do in this phase, in order to make the actual assembly of your steel shed go more smoothly.
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 Dude, are you fluent in english? Your reply is from outer space, (sorry man gotta call them as I see them). NO WHERE did ANYONE say anything about "DIY" - "steel sheds" - or all the other babble you posted. Are you sure you are in the right forum?
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05-01-2009, 12:47 AM
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Bunny by Malco - NY
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Use Grabber #10x3/4" with LOX tips, I find them the best and fastest
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05-04-2009, 08:34 PM
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ive always just used 1/2" self tapping panheads.
we recently got a pamphlet on a nailer for steel framing. but never seen one in action
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05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
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I'm not expert on the subject but what about stud crimpers? I've seen a few guys use em and they look pretty slick.
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05-05-2009, 12:06 AM
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Bunny by Malco - NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inner10
I'm not expert on the subject but what about stud crimpers? I've seen a few guys use em and they look pretty slick.
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Yea, they work really good on drywall studs...try that on structural framing studs and it's a no go.
Other thing to laugh at is when the mechanicals are run all the studs fall out
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05-05-2009, 04:19 PM
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Yea, they work really good on drywall studs...try that on structural framing studs and it's a no go.
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Ahh makes sense; I've only seen em on residential sites, basement reno's. On commercial sites all I see are sharp point K-laths and self-tapping waffer-heads.
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05-23-2009, 07:25 AM
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Closetpro,
Barkri12 tucked tail & ran on this one didn't he? Some one must have slipped something in his coffee that day?
Steve
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