Small Outbuilding 3 Walls Stucco One ?

Team Scream

I am beginning a backyard detached office building project.
The plans are for the rear wall of the new proposed structure to be setback 1 foot from the existing CMU block wall at the rear of my property.
This poses a particular problem in that the entire structure will be stucco'd, however after meeting with my stucco guy there is no way he will be able to stucco the back wall of the new building due to space constraints.

This leaves me with few options as I understand it.

(1) pre build the rear wall using some kind of siding and tilt the wall into place during that part of construction.

(2) pre build the wall, stucco it and then tilt it up into place the same way.

My questions are:

(A) is option (2) even possible?

(B) if not and option (1) is used then how do I prepare the rear wall so that when stucco guy arrives to brown coat the rest of the structure, there is adequate weather sealing where the walls join up and meet at the corners?

(C) are there any other options that make sense?

Due to the relatively small size of the property I decided to take advantage of the 1 foot setback requirement so that this structure fits in the back corner of the property as close to the rear CMU wall as possible in an effort to retain as much usable space in the back yard as possible.

Any help or suggestions here are genuinely appreciated and welcomed.

neolitic

Option #3:
Concrete block. If you don't have space to build it, you don't have space to maintain it. Concrete block is relatively maintenance free. Bout anything else simple that comes to mind needs at least to be painted, and that close space seems to be a place for a lot of water splash, and not much air circulation.
I'm a believer in simpler is better.

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woodmagman

Go into your neighbours yard and lean your ladder onto the sheds eave that is likely projecting in his yard.....why would you build so close to the fence line. Is there no fire code or building restrictions in your area, the one foot set back would be from the fascia I bet...

thom

You will run into other problems.

That 1' space will fill up with trash/debris/dirt. You must maintain the level 6" below the floor level in order to protect the framing (unless you use concrete), you must provide positive drainage, you cannot produce any run-off onto your neighbors yard...

Just because zoning allows it doesn't mean it's a good idea.

mdshunk

The Unibomber lived in a tar paper shack. Have you considered that option? I'm not sure if tar paper comes in any colors besides black, however.

Team Scream

Are you really that lonely that you need to make ridiculously stupid posts like that? Or is it that you are just seriously inept and this is your idea of constructive advice however idiotic it may be?

What an idiot.

P.S. judging from your post count, it is advice like that which keeps you in here more than out there which more or less explains it.

There is clean air and sunshine outside......you should make an effort to go get some once in a while.

mdshunk

Wow. Somebody missed their nap today.

send_it_all

MEEEYOWWWWWW!!!!

Team Scream

I mean come on guys,
Why would a reply like that by mdskunk be ok?
My questions were serious, should I not be able to expect serious replies from "professionals" of the trade?

tar paper shack? have I considered that? colors other than black? wtf?

I got plenty of sleep last night, what kind of response did you "seriously" expect to a comment like that?

neolitic

I thought I gave you the closest thing to a viable solution you can get. Even though I have really got to question the wisdom of building that close to PL for far to many reasons to go into here.
Your welcome.
BTW it's really hard for anyone to take either of the options you proposed seriously.

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woodmagman

Interesting thought, it is a tried and well document form of wall covering, but has been frowned upon for years as being shanty like and devaluing the property adjoining. I think though that craning a pre-built building into place was what he was asking…..or a crew of skinny stucco applicators...

Team Scream

Close,
I was actually seeking advice on the best practices for potentially pre-building the rear wall, stucco'ing it and then tilting it into place, more specifically how would one ensure adequate weather sealing between the tilt up wall and the other 2 adjoining walls.

It appears now however that the sound way to do it is as neolitic suggested which is to continue the CMU rear wall all the way up and then seal that accordingly as only the bottom 3-1/2' will have soil behind it yet still be above grade on my side of the property.

The adjoining property which is separated from mine by an existing wall is about 3-1/2' above my property grade, so I do have to water proof that lower portion at a minimum I would guess.

mdshunk

If you were paying for replies, then you'd have a legitimate gripe. For free, you have no gripe. You're just a little (maybe a lot) grumpy, is all.

Patrick

Id like to be there when he asks the stucco guy if he could pre-finish the exterior of the walls before they are raised

Team Scream

Ok then I'm just a little bit (maybe a lot) grumpy.
The "quality" of your response however, leads me to believe I would have buyers remorse long before the last coin left my hand and fell into yours, were I in fact paying for your "advice".

And I can't help but defer to your post count as I reflect on just how wealthy you must be doling it all out (for a fee of course).

Tell me, are you one of the upper echelon "guru's of this fine establishment? <---------- thats me being....well......."less" grumpy.

send_it_all

Popcorn Time

mdshunk

No, I don't think so. I know this guy, by proxy. Someone just like him has made his rounds a thousand times before. No sweat. He just doesn't like being the butt of the joke, is all. Lighten up, I say. In the end, it just doesn't pay to be so up tight.

72chevy4x4

even with the concrete block wall, where will the watershed go? with a 1" overhang (if that's what you choose), will that put the gutter, if used, over the neighbor's property? If this is desert land, you may have additional options that those of use in wetter climates do not have...post your location, it may provide additional assistance.

I saw a structural brick product once-wider then teh standard brick but not as wide as a concrete block, which weight bearing load could be placed upon. Sounds like an option for our building.

wireless

Why should you be able to expect serious replies? Other then you want them!

Team Scream

Gee, I don't know.....maybe because after lurking for a while there seemed to be some people in here who actually knew what the hell they were talking about and were willing to share their experience.

P.S. One would normally say: "other than" as opposed to "other then"
3rd grade grammar?

But it appears after all I was wrong, this is the misfit section where mentally adolescent goofballs hang out and drivel nonsense for no other reason than to see pretty black letters on nice white backgrounds while they mindlessly chew on the little piece of rag someone else stuffed in their mouths.

72chevy, I do appreciate your reply sir, thank you very much, it was ideas like that I was seeking.

Some people for some reason think that if I post my location, they will be able to help me interpret code or some other written law that would prohibit me from doing what I am asking, that was the part that sent me into retort.

Who gives a flying **** where I live or what part of the country I am in?
I have a permit in hand which allows me to build this close to the property line, it is what I am...now listen carefully for the really hard part to understand here as some of you may need me to draw you a picture.....choosing to do.........let me repeat it for some of the less "present" of you in here......."CHOOSING" to do.....get it?

So, if I was looking for comedy, I would be elsewhere.
If I wanted to be belittled for doing something that you may not do in Arkansas, or god forbid Pennsylvania, I would probably go to a hillbilly forum somewhere.

What I have described is perfectly legal and common here where I live....get over it and stop trying to convince the rest of the world that your 6500 posts here elevates you to some mystical status thereby granting you the wisdom to to be the know it all who tries to make everyone else feel less than.

I actually know who you are as well, and probably not by proxy.....
At this point I am convinced you are the same guy I see in every other forum who's self worth is determined by how many replies you have, as if post count was a direct reflection on your professional ability.