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Old 01-03-2015, 06:06 PM   #1
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OSB With Tyvek Or Zip System Sheathing


I'm sure this has been discussed but I couldn't find a recent thread...

I am going to start construction on my new home in April located in Dallas, TX. I have been reading up on types of sheathing and looking for more information and experience on what is the best sheathing to use in this environment. I'm leaning towards the zip system versus OSB with Tyvek wrap but would like some feedback. Thanks
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:12 PM   #2
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I can't remember the last time used house wrap. I love the zip system. Make good efforts to not overdrive nails & lap tape seams properly & you're good to go.

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I would choose zip over osb and tyvek 8 days out of the week.
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Zip absolutely. Love it, need it, won't work without it.
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Another vote for Zip.
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Switched over to Zip about 4 years ago and we won't ever go back to house wrap,
Zip walled my own home too
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I was really into zip, but it's too the point it's gotten so expensive I don't use it. Same with advantech. Zip is $28 a sheet for half inch when i get regular osb for $6.50.

I like the stuff, but I'll wait until someone else comes out with something like it.


It's like advantech, I've been using dry guard with absolutely no complaints, and I get it for $17.50 a sheet vs $35
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If you are a one man operation and the build will take some time use the zip system.
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I was really into zip, but it's too the point it's gotten so expensive I don't use it. Same with advantech. Zip is $28 a sheet for half inch when i get regular osb for $6.50.

I like the stuff, but I'll wait until someone else comes out with something like it.


It's like advantech, I've been using dry guard with absolutely no complaints, and I get it for $17.50 a sheet vs $35

How do you think the costs compares overall? The zip system is more expensive but the labor involved is much less. Where osb and Tyvek might but cheaper but you have to account for the wrapping of everything and then taping the seam like you would have to with the Zip. They seem like all said and done it might be a wash as far as cost.

I know the home builder I worked for said he should have done it on the house we were building at the time but initially he figured Tyvek would be cheaper


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zip wall for sure,

I don't like zip roof though,

Around here we need i7w and paper , so what's the need for zip roof * it's slippery with muddy or wet feet.
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zip wall for sure,



I don't like zip roof though,



Around here we need i7w and paper , so what's the need for zip roof * it's slippery with muddy or wet feet.

I work for a roofer who says its a waste for zip roof because no shingle company will warranty the roof without underlayment and when the roof needs to be replaced its going to be a bitch to tear shingles off the Zip


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The house we are doing now had 260 sheets for the exterior so about $1800 for osb. $300 for tyvek. 3 rolls of titanium $300. 10 rolls of ice and water $600 2 laborers for 2 days $500. So $3500 (roughly) vs $7800 for zip, plus another $300 for zip tape. $600 for I've and water. And Probably 2 laborers for a day to tape it and role the seams. $8700.

So unless $5200 is worth saving 2 days of labor help then no I don't see it being worth it.



I like the stuff, I just don't think it's worth the money, and I don't like not being able to get drip cap behind anything either. I would always just tape it, but still, I'm not a fan of that detail.
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The house we are doing now had 260 sheets for the exterior so about $1800 for osb. $300 for tyvek. 3 rolls of titanium $300. 10 rolls of ice and water $600 2 laborers for 2 days $500. So $3500 (roughly) vs $7800 for zip, plus another $300 for zip tape. $600 for I've and water. And Probably 2 laborers for a day to tape it and role the seams. $8700.

So unless $5200 is worth saving 2 days of labor help then no I don't see it being worth it.



I like the stuff, I just don't think it's worth the money, and I don't like not being able to get drip cap behind anything either. I would always just tape it, but still, I'm not a fan of that detail.

Ahh alright, thanks man! I was curious, with those costs I would 100% agree it's worth it to use Tyvek. Thanks again!


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The house we are doing now had 260 sheets for the exterior so about $1800 for osb. $300 for tyvek. 3 rolls of titanium $300. 10 rolls of ice and water $600 2 laborers for 2 days $500. So $3500 (roughly) vs $7800 for zip, plus another $300 for zip tape. $600 for I've and water. And Probably 2 laborers for a day to tape it and role the seams. $8700.

So unless $5200 is worth saving 2 days of labor help then no I don't see it being worth it.



I like the stuff, I just don't think it's worth the money, and I don't like not being able to get drip cap behind anything either. I would always just tape it, but still, I'm not a fan of that detail.
The savings aren't there. You may recoup some of the materials costs with labor, but the Zip will still end up costing more. Either way, the extra cost is worth it to me because I believe it to be the superior product.
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The savings aren't there. You may recoup some of the materials costs with labor, but the Zip will still end up costing more. Either way, the extra cost is worth it to me because I believe it to be the superior product.

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I work for a roofer who says its a waste for zip roof because no shingle company will warranty the roof without underlayment and when the roof needs to be replaced its going to be a bitch to tear shingles off the Zip


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I'm not saying he's not a good roofer, but if he was a good roofer he wouldn't worry about warranties anyways. There's no excuse for a new roof to leak if installed properly (assuming quality roof shingles are used).

How does he figure tearing shingles off the zip roof is any more difficult than a typically sheathed roof?
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I'm not saying he's not a good roofer, but if he was a good roofer he wouldn't worry about warranties anyways. There's no excuse for a new roof to leak if installed properly (assuming quality roof shingles are used).



How does he figure tearing shingles off the zip roof is any more difficult than a typically sheathed roof?

He's a good roofer, specializes in custom metal and slate roofs. it's not leak warranties in concern it's any warranty. As far as mildew or color issues.

With a zip system you apply shingles directly to the plywood, with typical plywood you would have an underlayment not allowing the shingles to adhere directly to the sheathing. This is second hand information I have heard/learned from many local guys. But like everything in construction everyone has different ideas that also work


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I'm not saying he's not a good roofer, but if he was a good roofer he wouldn't worry about warranties anyways. There's no excuse for a new roof to leak if installed properly (assuming quality roof shingles are used).



How does he figure tearing shingles off the zip roof is any more difficult than a typically sheathed roof?

Shingle companies don't warranty a bad install. They warranty failures in the product.
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We have used the Zip wall sheathing on three jobs. All three of those jobs were in windy areas during the winter. Trying to keep Tyvek from flapping around on those houses would have been impossible. I highly recommend it for that use. Any other time, I advocate for osb and Tyvek.

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