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Old 12-28-2011, 03:40 PM   #1
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Mobile Home Framing?


Well I am moving from a house(18 yrs) to a trailer was wondering what makes up the framing in a mobile home? This place is 15 maybe 20 years old needs work, we are moving cause our house was foreclosed on and we have to be out on the 14th of Jan 2012. This place needs plumbing and ceilings and walls, I was figureing 3/8 sheetrock and new foam board insulation. Can anyone give me some pointers, somebody who might work on these places? Try to save myself some haedaches.
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:01 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear about your foreclosure, but you shouldn't find this to difficult.

I think at that age you'll find it has 2x6 stud exterior walls and roof trusses. Personally I wouldn't bother with 3/8" rock. Here the 1/2" is the same price and much easier to handle, especially alone.

My son has one that is much older, probably into the 70's. He's just finishing the last remodel that eliminates anything of the original except the steel frame underneath. Of course he's looking at the kitchen again already, that was the first project when they moved in. At any rate, he's made a fine home for his family there and will probably stay there for quite some time. That's life with no mortgage.

The biggest pita he's run into is the sub-floor rotted out, including the part under the wall frame. Eventually he replaced all of the walls and took care of it that way. Same thing with your ceilings. They lay they ceiling panels out over the walls, then add the trusses. So your ceiling will have to be flush cut to the walls around the exterior.

It will be remarkably like working on a long narrow house.

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Sorry to hear about your home. I put two old moblie office trailers together to make one unit for a concrete company in there yard as office space. Check the frame under the subfloor to see how its built to see weight distribution And load points if your changing walls in trailer. Is there skirting on buttom of trailer.
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Man that is a bummer. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do for your family and as long as you have that that is all that matters.

Anyway there are all different types. I have seen 2x4 exterior, 2x6 exterior, 2x2 trusses, 1x4 interior walls, and the list could go on. Usually no headers.

The plumbing is usually cheap pex. Actually it is not the lines that suck it usually is the fittings and angle stops that are horrible.

If you ever have to order any exterior doors more than likely they are shorter than a stick built home. You might even have to order longer backsets if you get new locks. I can't remember when they changed that.
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I remodeled a mobile home for a former girlfriends parents. they had it as a rental. I know for a fact the doors will probably be different. i couldn't even use normal hinges. we have a actually mobile home supply store here where you can buy hinges, new doors and things of that nature. Frank sorry to hear about your house man. Keep your head up
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Another thing you will find is most of the windows in trailers are pretty much junk. But unless they are really bad that is something you can deal with later. One thing need to watch for is that the side walls and floor are not rotted and falling off. I have done a couple where we put permanet skirting under them. (footing, concrete stub wall and bracing under the floor, got pics ) they turned out really nice and made a nice home out if it when we where all done remodling. Sorry to hear of the foreclosure.
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I have one that is a rental. It's around a '93. I has the "A" roof but metal not shingle. The walls are vertical metal siding and the framing is only a 2x2 with perpendicular bracing notched in. The interior walls are 1x with 3/8" rock.
I changed the doors to regular steel prehung. Just had to get custom height.
Sub floor is particle board.
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www.mobilehomepartsstore.com
I bought a tub from them and they shipped it to NJ for pretty cheap.
That's one real drag, most trailers have 54" tubs.
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As many have said the construction varies - generally the first surprise many get is they build the interior walls over the flooring (carpet & vinyl) and the bottom plate is generally 1x & they use either 2x2 or 2x3's 24" OC
Exterior walls run the gamut from 2x2 to 2x6 & are 24" OC
Flooring is almost always going to be particle board
Walls vary from paneling to 1/2" rock
Hope this helps & keep your chin up
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Sorry to hear about the foreclosure.
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sorry about your house good luck with the next stage in your life adventure
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ive seen 2x2 construction in my experience. from a heating bill perspective, get good-nearly air tight skirting around the perimeter b/c heating bills will be pretty high. also, wrap the pipes leading from the ground to the inside of the trailer-that's place I've commonly see freeze up.

best of luck to you on the move :-(
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Hey Guys
Thanks a lot I really appreciate all the imput,
I was planning on going over there today and check out the underside of the trailer, the Park Manager told us the pipes froze cause the last owners didn't tell the Park they were moving out so water didn't get shut off. oh well I have all kinds of pex tubing left from a job I did last year, I also planned on taking the skirting off and building 2x4 framing and then cover it with OSB then put skirting and put foam board on the inside of these walls, The trailer only cost us $500 and our lot payment will be $300 a month plus utilies. I have to say it's better then the $1,029.00 bucks Bank of America wants for house payments(when they use to be $344.00 a month) oh plus $14k they want from me. They told me my house is only worth $20k when in 2006 it was worth $149k so I told them that's what they are going to get since they want to steal my house from me.(they still have not produced a DEED) I am clearing this place out, I figure they don't want to give me any moving money so F*** 'em I already started taking out all the heating system of copper I put in but never hooked it up to the new boiler, So I am taking it cause it aint part of the house. I am leaving the original plumbing which was put in in 1926 Pipes are all rusted inside.
Anything I put in is gone. So Bank of America who I never had a Mortgage with, How you like me now?
But thanks again for all the help, you are what I call REAL BROTHERS and I thank you very much!
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I'll post some pictures of the place and then all the changes I do.
THANKS AGAIN!
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Sorry about the foreclosure, Frank.

Be prepared to see more fasteners than you would have ever imagined seeing holding things in the trailer together. You would think some 2x2 framing with 1x plates would be easy demo. It's not. Same with the subfloor, cabinets, everything. It's like those guys get paid per staple.

Doors will be shorter than standard, as has already been mentioned. Jamb widths and window liners are non standard as well.

I'm sure there is more, but is it early.
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We got our start doing insurance claim work on mobile home, it is actually a profitable business. The main issue they have is with the roofing and plumbing.

There is generally not enough insulation in the attics with no access and little or no ventilation.

The plumbing in many of the older models is PB poly buetalune (sp?) which is junk. Re-pipe the whole house complete!

As far as framing goes everything is under built. Especially on the rafter/trusses, flooring spans, and sometimes on the walls.

Glue and screw everything and inslukate
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Sorry about the foreclosure, Frank.

Be prepared to see more fasteners than you would have ever imagined seeing holding things in the trailer together. You would think some 2x2 framing with 1x plates would be easy demo. It's not. Same with the subfloor, cabinets, everything. It's like those guys get paid per staple.

Doors will be shorter than standard, as has already been mentioned. Jamb widths and window liners are non standard as well.

I'm sure there is more, but is it early.
I agree 100% on that. It is like they get paid per staple.

Last patio door I took out of one had to have a staple every 3".

I guess they need to hold together going down the road.

Does it still have the tail lights integrated into it Frank?

Those were my favorites. A buddy had an old one at a lake and we got all the clearance lights and tail lights working, great mood lighting.
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If the walls are 2x3 look in the fencing section its faster then ripping your own

If you find alum wireing dont splice copper to it

be prepared to think outside the box, its easy to waste alot of time and $$ on a trailer that will never be recouped......think of it this way marble and travertine GREAT but wait its a trailer nevermind. just make it nice for yourself and move on
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Hey guys, Well heres the deal. it a 1963 56'x 12' two bedroom bath kitchen living room, all wood panelling fiber board ceiling force air copper tubing which the manager says leaks, I was planning remove replace all new PEX I want to run the heat pulham down the center of the trailer underneath the floor, but I haven't crawled under the place yet.
Here what I would like to know I have a 6'x 4' bay window in my house I was thinking of taking out the front windows on the trailer frame the front wall then put window in place?.
I have pictures! The front is what I am talking about changing.
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My parents had trailers years ago. You can pretty much bet that with that year and all wood paneling the paneling is glued to the framing. Not with panel adhesive but actual wood glue like you would use when you make furniture. That paneling will come out in splinters off the studs.
You could knock that whole front wall out, frame in 2x with real header and put in the bay window. Should be a piece of cake really.
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I bought one about 12 years ago. The difference I recall is they go by code minimum on everything, whereas typically on a house you go slightly over. The sub-floor was 5/8" instead of 3/4", but it wasn't particle board like the old ones. And the roof was designed at a lower psf, it was something like 20 or 25 psf instead of the typical 30 psf, but I can't remember exactly. And of course the girders were steel instead of wood.

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