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Job Sequence - New House
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12-04-2007, 01:40 PM
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Job Sequence - New House
I'm sure I'll get blasted with all kinds of "you are an idiot who should not be in this business....." but oh well........
I'm a framer/carpenter/remodeler - been involved with hundreds of houses but never built one for myself and I'm acting as the contractor on my own house. need help with Job Sequence - is there a good resource for that? website? another thread? for example: I don't want to have my concrete guy pouring the slab when I realize that I should have had my plumbing stubbed out first. oops. wish I would have had a more detailed Job Sequence |
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12-04-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
Cant help you here but Im sure you will figure this one out being that you have the knowledge
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12-04-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House great book...... |
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12-04-2007, 03:36 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
House/with attached Garage Renovation
General Conditions Finalize plans and develop estimate with owner, architect Sign contract and notice to proceed Apply for Permits Secure foundation permit Secure framing permit Secure electrical permit Secure plumbing permit Secure HVAC permit Secure miscellaneous permits Site Work Clear and grub lot Excavator estimated houly Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Topsoil stripping Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Pavement and sidewalk removal Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Rough grading Skid steer estimated hourly Relocation of existing natural drainage Excavator estimated houly Skid steer estimated hourly Removal of unsuitable soil Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Access roads Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Detours Protection of existing structures and utilities Environmental considerations Install temporary power service Install underground utilities Foundation Locate building Survey Install batter boards Excavate for foundations Excavator estimated houly Drilling for garage piles Skid steer estimated hourly Trucking estimated hourly Forming Footings Total lineal feet of footing Total width of footing Total thickness of footings Total cubic meters of footings Foundations walls Total lineal feet of walls Total width of walls Total height of walls Total cubic meters of walls Grade beams Total lineal feet of beam Total width of beam Total height of beam Total number of 12"x12' concrete pile Total cubic meters of beams and piles Cure basement walls for 7 days Strip basement wall forms Waterproof/insulate basement walls Perform foundation inspection Backfill foundation Skid steer estimated hourly Framing house and attached garge Install 1st floor joists Mud sill achor bolts Sill gasket 2x6 Treated mud sill 2x10 Spruce 4 ply beam 3" Adjustable steel telepost 2x10 Spruce joisting 2x10 Spruce rim joists 2x2 bridging Single joist hangers/nails Double joist hangers/nails 3 1/4" coated nails Lay 1st floor decking 3/4" T&G Fir sheating 1 1/2" flooring screws Sub-floor adhesive Frame 1st floor walls Exterior walls Top, bottom and cap plates 2x6 spruce 2x6 spruce studs 92 5/8" 3/8" spruce sheathing 2x10 spruce 2 ply header with 2x6 backer 2x6 garge door rough frame and Brick moulding 3 1/4" coated nails 1 1/2" sheathing staple House wrap (Tyvek) and tape 3/8" house wrap staples Interior walls Top, bottom and cap plates 2x4 spruce 2x4 spruce studs 92 5/8" 2x4 spruce single plate door header Plumbing wall Top, bottom and cap plates 2x6 spruce 2x6 spruce studs 92 5/8" 3 1/4" coated nails Cap plate and exterior wall backing poly flashing 2x10 Spruce 4 ply beam 2x6 drywall backing Install 2nd floor joists 2x10 Spruce joisting 2x10 Spruce rim joists 2x2 bridging Single joist hangers/nails Double joist hangers/nails 3 1/4" coated nails Lay 2nd floor decking 3/4" T&G Fir sheating 1 1/2" flooring screws Sub-floor adhesive Frame 2nd floor walls Exterior walls Top, bottom and cap plates 2x6 spruce 2x6 spruce studs 92 5/8" 3/8" spruce sheathing 2x10 spruce 2 ply header with 2x6 backer 3 1/4" coated nails 1 1/2" sheathing staple House wrap (Tyvek) and tape 3/8" house wrap staples Interior walls Top, bottom and cap plates 2x4 spruce 2x4 spruce studs 92 5/8" 2x4 spruce single plate door header Plumbing wall Top, bottom and cap plates 2x6 spruce 2x6 spruce studs 92 5/8" 3 1/4" coated nails Cap plate and exterior wall backing poly flashing 2x10 Spruce 4 ply beam 2x6 drywall backing Interior stairs and landings Complete roof framing Manufactured Roof trusses and gables 24" o.c. 2x6 gable ladders and fascia 2x6 fasica Cardboard insulation baffels 2x4 truss bracing and strapping 2x4 ridge blocking 1/2 roof sheathing 1/2 sheathing clips 3 1/4" coated nails 2" sheathing staples 3/8" insulation baffle staples Conduct framing inspection Dry In Shingles 210 Asphalt shingles Ice and water shield Asphalt ridged cap 1 1/4" shingle nails Aluminum gable flashing Roof vents 1st floor exterior doors Front door 36/80 6 panel with side lite Weiser brush nickel passage and deadbolt Back door 36/80 6 Panel Weiser brush nickel passage and deadbolt Garage man door to house 36/80 6 panel with closer Weiser brush nickel passage and deadbolt Garage doors 9x7 Barcol inusulated with Genie opener 1st floor windows 2nd floor windows Exterior Finishes Eaves Aluminum vented soffit (white) Aluminum fascia 5" Gutter and down spouts Stucco Scaffolding 1 1/2" styrofoam insulation Stucco base coat Stucco finish coat Parging Stone work Shingle gables Exterior Decks and Stairs Utility Rough-Ins and Complete Concrete Rough-in plumbing Conduct rough-in plumbing inspection Place concrete for basement floor Rough-in electrical Conduct rough-in electrical inspection Rough-in HVAC Conduct rough-in HVAC inspection Rough-in communication - phone, cable, computer, alarm Interior Finishes Insulation Wall insulation - 1st floor R20 fiberglass batt 6ml vapor barrier Wall insulation - 2nd floor R20 fiberglass batt 6ml vapor barrier Ceiling insulation - 2nd floor R40 Blown in cellulose 6ml vapor barrier Conduct insulation inspection 3/8" vapor barrier Staples Tuck tape Acostical chalking Drywall Install drywall - 1st floor walls Install drywall - 1st floor overhead Install drywall 2nd floor walls Install drywall 2nd floor overhead Tape and float 1st floor drywall Tape and float 2nd floor drywall Paint Texture all except entry and kitchen - 1st floor Paint all except entry and kitchen - 1st floor Hang wallpaper entry and kitchen - 1st floor Texture all - 2nd floor Paint all - 2nd floor Paint exterior siding & trim work Cabinets Install 1st floor - kitchen cabinets Install 1st floor - master bath and guest cabinets Install 2nd floor - hall bath and private bath cabinets Install chair rails, crown moldings, trim Finish Plumbing Complete 1st floor - kitchen plumbing Complete 1st floor - master bath and guest plumbing Complete 2nd floor - hall bath and private bath plumbing Conduct finish plumbing inspection Finish Electrical Complete 1st floor circuits to service panel Complete 2nd floor circuits to service panel Conduct finish electrical inspection Complete communications wiring - phone, cable, computer, alarm Finish HVAC Complete 1st floor - zone 1 HVAC Complete 2nd floor - zone 2 HVAC Conduct HVAC inspection Carpet, Tile and Appliances Tile entry, kitchen and baths Carpet 1st floor Carpet 2nd floor Install appliances Landscaping and Grounds Work Pour concrete driveway and sidewalks Install backyard fence Sod and complete plantings - front yard Sod and complete plantings - backyard Final Acceptance Complete final inspection for certificate of occupancy Cleanup for occupancy Perform final walk-through inspection Complete punch list items And about 200 items are missing...and if you took all this information and applied it to an excel program with numbers and functions you would have a good start to a real estimating program....or just add numbers and you would have a estimate. But now it is up to you to add the missing items..... Last edited by woodmagman; 12-04-2007 at 03:45 PM. |
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12-04-2007, 03:46 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
woodmagman - you are the man!!! I'll bet your fingers are tired as heck
 many thanks - dats the kind of stuff I was looking for |
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12-04-2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
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12-04-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
consider it done, my man
tis the season for doin some givin! |
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12-04-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
Least flexible first to most flexible last. And fewer possible collisions of romex with sharp metal 
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12-04-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
Good point, more guys need to learn that one. It would lower my Tums and sawzall blade budget for the year.
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12-04-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
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12-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
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12-05-2007, 07:38 AM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
One thing you might wish to consider is the "wish list", in addition to the very valuable list above. Nothing worse then standing in a finished room and saying "I wish........."
The single largest screwup, besides not having media cable in, is actual room sizing and placement. "Well......it looked perfect in the prints" is a common thing. I actually had the HO's stand in a garage while I laid out 2x4's to represent walls for the bathrooms and doors, and yes, there were changes. This all happened before we broke ground.
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12-05-2007, 07:40 AM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
This book will help as well.
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12-05-2007, 08:45 AM
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Re: Job Sequence - New HouseQuote:
wood - ya oughta be chargin for that list 
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12-05-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
Diggler, It is not mine to charge for, it is a process that is as different as the house that is being built. You know how the guy has a shop full of tools and all he builds are ashtrys, this is what will happen with this list. Those that really know what to do with it already have one, and those that don't just feel good because they now have one in the saved documents file...
Now send your $14.95 to the food bank, some people out there, tradesman included may need your help this year. If $14.95 is to easy to give then give till it hurts a little......Seasons Greetings...
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12-05-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
Tape and float 2nd floor drywall
Paint Texture all except entry and kitchen - 1st floor Paint all except entry and kitchen - 1st floor Hang wallpaper entry and kitchen - 1st floor Texture all - 2nd floor Paint all - 2nd floor Paint exterior siding & trim work Cabinets Install 1st floor - kitchen cabinets Install 1st floor - master bath and guest cabinets Install 2nd floor - hall bath and private bath cabinets Install chair rails, crown moldings, trim Paint walls before trim is installed, unh-unh. Prime drywall, then install all trim, and preferably all cabinets, counter tops, tile floor, etc. Then painters can mask off everything and leave it all with a nice, sprayed finish. Shoot, sometimes I think I would like to comeback and do the final coat on all the walls after the carpet is installed even (can you tell I am sick of giving away my time fixing scuffs and dings from the trades after the painters) |
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12-08-2007, 05:47 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
go to Marquis Home Builders, Inc website marquishomebuilderscom and click on the Construction Process. It has 65 phases and they are pretty much in order of how you would normally construct a residence. It is not crazy detail but may help.
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12-09-2007, 11:38 AM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
OK. I'll start
A few years back I had a contract for a shell addition. HO was doing all the finishwork. We hung all the rock on Friday. The spackler showed up on Monday to be turned away because the HO and his brother installed the hardwood floor over the weekend and were staining it. |
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12-09-2007, 12:09 PM
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12-09-2007, 01:14 PM
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Re: Job Sequence - New House
Some great stuff guys, very interesting. Where I am in Alberta Canada the electrician won't rough in until plumbing and heating are roughed in. As for painting we only prime and then maybe one coat of finished color, then we do all are finish carpentry, cabinets, tile, etc, then painter finishes.
Have fun, I built a few houses for myself over the years and have always enjoyed it. |
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