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Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
Does anyone know the actual ruling of IRCC2006 for the minimum size that a "jack stud or trimmer" can be under a exterior wall window header. I have used a double 2 X 12 with 1/2" OSB for a exterior wall window header on a 8' high window and my framer wants to use less than a single 2X for the window trimmer. I have never seen anything less than a 2X single or a double 2X used for support.
Can anyone help me find a ruling of minimum sizing for trimmers under this circumstance. Thanks |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?Quote:
I deal with FBC, so I don't know what the IRCC would be, but all building codes are the "Minimum" requirements. |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
height dosnt matter on eight foot wall! length of header determins how many trimmers to install. four feet and under one trimmer each side, over four feet double trimmer each side.
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
It depends on what the header is supporting. Just a roof and ceiling; Roof and ceiling and one center bearing floor; roof and ceiling and 2 clear span floors etc.
Assuming that you used the 2 (2x12) header based on code requirements, I don't see anywhere that you can get by with less than 2 jacks under each side of the header. At least this is required in North Carolina which is based in the IRC. |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?Quote:
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
thats what i was wondering
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
The jacks have to be nominal 2x by code.
Table 502.5 give the number of jacks for spans, # of floors, building width, etc. |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
Code in Canada according to NBC is that it must be minimum 1 1/2" bearing for lintel spans of less than 10' and 3" for over 10'. But I wouldn't go more than 6' with single jacks. Do NOT go less than 2x material for any span, inspector will not pass this as long as he's awake.
BTW, it sounds like the framer might have f***ed up the RO size, then tried to hack in 1x material. |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
BTW, it sounds like the framer might have f***ed up the RO size, then tried to hack in 1x material.
That sounds right. I have never had a problem from inspectors going up 6' with a single 2x and two 2xs wider than that. Andy. |
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
I've never seen anything less than a 2 x either for a jack stud bearing wall. Can't quote that in the code book but I doubt it's legal.
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
If the framer did screw up with short headers, depending on how many, without ripping them out he can try to use the Simpson HH hangers. If not, he has to fix it.
http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/hh.asp
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
Man, I thought for sure you guys would eat him alive. This guy can't be real. Guess I will look for my entertainment somewhere else tonight.
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?
Its usually on my prints, how many jacks. It is good to know the gen rules tho. But show him the plans, if it is in print, and if it fails he will have to fix it.
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Re: Jack Stud Sizing Under Window Headers?Quote:
plans should spec. requirement i.e. load path, point load etc above. |
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