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Old 11-15-2009, 12:26 PM   #21
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Find out if docks are even still allowed in your area first.

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Old 11-17-2009, 11:44 AM   #22
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Pilings - you will need equipment to drive them into the sediment - guy on the Potomac uses a barge and crane with a large weight to do it.
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This thread is 4 years old

Is this a record?

great first post by the (2009) op too
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:59 PM   #24
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You're getting into enviromental issue. I know in some states you're frobidden to change the shoreline. Better check with the state. Sometimes a fine is just a cost of doing business so cya.

The last time I new it concrete was heavier than water so it ill displace water in a form.





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I looked at a job the other day where the customer wants me to build a 'dock' that would be on their lake. The dimensions of the dock would be 20 feet long. 8 feet wide. I was planning on building it like a deck and using composite decking for the deck.

Currently for a dock, the people have a railroad/brick paver combination. I will have to remove all that. The railroad tie sides acctually sit in the water. The new dock will be about 8'' higher then the old on to keep all joist out of water at all times.

My question. How am i suppose to dig holes for the footings with out them completly filling up with water? I figure that 'lake side' footing will need to be about 1 foot off the lake. How do i pull this off? I built decks before, but never a dock on a lake.

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On our lake we never have used pilings or footings. All decks are on legs that are either wood or metal and rest on feet or just on the ground. There are companies that specialize in dock legs and feet including some that are gear driven for adjustment at the top.

Since erosion occurs anyway nobody assumes you can or are allowed to affect the soil with pilings or cement footings.

Some docks are floating type but almost all are on legs on soil so as to be shifted as necessary as water and ice do their thing.

Check local laws as we can't put in anything permanent on a waterway as the state owns the resource and consider your dock a temporary privilege.

Some docks are rough pine, some are PT and some are aluminum.
I prefer not to use PT due to its harmful affects on the wildlife and it used to come with a restriction not to use in contact with lakes, but that was the Arsenic and copper chromate formula.

We have basic rough pine frame, with pine legs as fresh water seems to pickle the pine and it last for years and is inexpensive. every few years we restore a leg or two and replace some boards. Considering what the ice can do if they don't monitor the lake height, the cost of anything else would be silly. Last couple of floods we tied our 30 feet of docks to the trees and they and their legs floated and shifted but never fell apart. Footings would have been a total waste and we have had three floods in recent memory that destroyed many Docks with water 1-2 feet over the shore line.
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To pour cement under water you must pour through a tube from the bottom up and allow no current to disturb its placement until set.

You can not pour through water but you can pour under it with a pumping method to displace the water by forcing it up and out of the form from the bottom.

I would check with local laws as i stated we dock owners are considered temporary obstructions to waterways owned by the State and governed by regulations no one ever hears about until they try infringing on them.
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depends on the geotechnical conditions that you're getting into, size / weight of the boat(s), other service loads, and exposure to velocity action. suggestion is the owner get an engineer to design the thing first.

if you're talking about a private dock for fishing and jumping in stagnant lake with a small water craft such as nothing bigger than 20' power boat or two tied up in the summer, there are a world of inexpensive prefabricated dock systems that you can buy over the internet. masted boats have more drag and i wouldn't consider such a dock for a sail boat or sizeable boat such as a pocket cruiser. takes about half a day to assemble roughly 50' or so of prefab-dock working in chest-high water - longer if you have to work from a boat. there are floating docks where all you're installing are piers or anchors. not sure you need permits for temporary facilities but that's a question to the owner's engineer.

what you do and how you do it is usually regulated when you're working on inland waterways, lakes, etc., but the owner's engineer will figure all that out as well as what kind of dock you need.

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Helical (screw piles) will be the best bet. Depends on access and boom reach etc. Worth having a look into though. Check this out for starters - http://www.roterra.ca/
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Helical (screw piles) will be the best bet. Depends on access and boom reach etc. Worth having a look into though. Check this out for starters - http://www.roterra.ca/
Very nice but we have a member that's all over those things and you've jumped on a almost 2 year old thread, so I'm sure they've done something by now
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