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Old 08-16-2017, 10:09 AM   #1
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I am bidding a project that the customer requested Hardiplank Horizontal siding. I was never a huge fan of it. What other alternatives do you use that offers similar low maintenance performance.
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Old 08-16-2017, 01:16 PM   #2
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A lot of people around here are going with LP SmartSide over Hardie these days–sealed OSB over cementious fiber board. If it’s the aesthetic you’re not fond of however, I’m not sure if that’s any help. If it’s lap siding you don’t like, have you looked at the shake or shingle styles, or board and batten? Most people seem to like the versatility of Hardie when it comes to aesthetic. I’ve certainly appreciated it replacing endless walls of stucco around here…

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No its not the aesthetic..It doesn't look bad, just not a fan of the Hardi or even cement board in general.. Was thinking more of a PVC Clapboard. We are definitely going horizontal
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I am painting a new construction exterior currently. They went with the LP Smart siding in place of Hardie. It is the first time i have been around it but the crew installing it love the stuff.
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I used smartside on an addition on my own home. Very easy to work with. Comes in longer pieces than Hardie so, less butt joints depending on wall length. I made joints in the field pretty tight and caulked them. No sign of movement yet. Caulking hasn't cracked or bubbled.

I bought primed and finished it after install. Very happy with it so far but it's only been up a couple years.

I was concerned about its longevity. I left some scraps outside for quite some time and noticed no signs of swelling or damage. Not a conclusive test by any means but made me feel better about the material.

I can't say the same about the miratec trim. Looks fine on the house but the scraps swelled and warped.

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Check out Royal Celect for another option. Trying to sell it for a new build next year. It seems like a nice balance between Hardie/LP and premium vinyl.

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I used smartside on an addition on my own home. Very easy to work with. Comes in longer pieces than Hardie so, less butt joints depending on wall length. I made joints in the field pretty tight and caulked them. No sign of movement yet. Caulking hasn't cracked or bubbled.

I bought primed and finished it after install. Very happy with it so far but it's only been up a couple years.

I was concerned about its longevity. I left some scraps outside for quite some time and noticed no signs of swelling or damage. Not a conclusive test by any means but made me feel better about the material.

I can't say the same about the miratec trim. Looks fine on the house but the scraps swelled and warped.

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The main problem with Smartside is improper installation mainly not leaving proper clearance and gap. Joints require 3/16" and caulked with OSI Quad or equivalent.
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Don't know if they have it in your area, but Diamond Kote is LP Smart side with a plastic spine cut in the back like the old Colorlock siding , would be a fair alterative. Although I am not fond of Smart side or Hardi the biggest problem I see with the stuff is improper nailing due to the air nailer not set right . IMO I think the nail should be a little proud then hand set to pull the panel tight. Here most of the guys use the H joint cover rather then caulk the butt joints. Which IMO I think looks every bit as good as caulked joints. I am pretty bias on siding seeing I only install steel . The new PVC plank looks nice , but not cheap.
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great feedback..thanks!
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JH stopped recommending caulking at butt joints.
Moderate contact with joint treatments is the preferred installation method. I always have it pre-stained and install using ring shank galvanized roofing nails in lieu of 6d siding nails.

Winter creek ski lodge Nevada

That has random exposure lap, panel and a very odd architectural designed panel attached with Simpson SDS screws for a mechanical look. Pain.

Diamond peak ski lodge. Incline village NV


That was actually Certainteed. A train load of it.


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CertainTeed was by far the worse of the two products , see it flat off of building.
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Especially towards the end. We had run miles and miles of it. Around 2009-10, it was failing miserably. It would shrink so bad, the corners would all blow out and the siding drop.

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CertainTeed was by far the worse of the two products , see it flat off of building.


They sold my the wrong regional product for the Diamond peak ski lodge and it blew off in a wind storm. That's with the roofing nails. The second batch was much better and still looks great after 10 years


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Anyone have any real world experience with the Boral stuff?
http://boralamerica.com/TruExterior
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Anyone have any real world experience with the Boral stuff?
http://boralamerica.com/TruExterior
That looks interesting
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JH stopped recommending caulking at butt joints.
Moderate contact with joint treatments is the preferred installation method. I always have it pre-stained and install using ring shank galvanized roofing nails in lieu of 6d siding nails.

Winter creek ski lodge Nevada

That has random exposure lap, panel and a very odd architectural designed panel attached with Simpson SDS screws for a mechanical look. Pain.

Diamond peak ski lodge. Incline village NV


That was actually Certainteed. A train load of it.


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Down here in the South we never caulk butt joints only corners and leave 1/8-1/4 gap between joints and light block with drip cap over mechanicals. We also use minimum hot dipped 1 3/4 x .75 coil roofing nails for all Hardie applications/stainless trim nails. Also per Hardie install guidelines we paint all cut edges prior to install.


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