Basement House Footings Poured Out Of Level 2 - Walls Up

 
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:42 PM   #1
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Basement House Footings Poured Out Of Level 2 - Walls Up


Im specing a house build. Its 24x56 on a narrow lot in the city. Full basement, frame construction

Long story short I found after the walls were poured, underground plumbing done and as they were prepping the basement slab that the footings were not level. They are 2 higher on the 56 long wall at the rear of the property than they are the front. So with that if they poured a 4 slab as was specd the walls would be lower at the rear than front of house by 2.

I called my GC who of course said no big deal, why you worrying. The foundation contractor blamed the lazer

I called my architect who said it was a pretty major mistake. But not enough to pull it down

Now the floor was poured and its 6 deeper in the front than the back of the house and it appears to be ok. Although grade is off 2 from front to back.

Im pretty pissed about this and consider it complete incompetence. Give me your opinion on this. How Big of a deal is this? The footings literally being lower on one end of the house then other

I havent paid anything for this job yet and am thinking of talking to my attorney before writing a check.

Am I over reacting? Is there any long term effect / issues that could arise here?

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Old 01-13-2018, 05:53 PM   #2
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I have a GC I just stopped there to check progress. WTF was my response as well.

What should I do have them tear it out and start over? Kind of my thought
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Are the concrete foundation walls level at the top? I'm a little confused about the numbers. The floor is 6" deeper even though the footings are 2" deeper?
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I think he probably means it's 6" deep at one end, and 4" at the other.

As long as the top of the foundation is level and the walls plumb and where they are supposed to be, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Are the concrete foundation walls level at the top? I'm a little confused about the numbers. The floor is 6" deeper even though the footings are 2" deeper?
Yes appears level in relation to the poured floor. I checked various measurements of wall height and they all come in at 67" which is what is on print. In Chicago we build on a Knee wall. Windows are framed in the Knee wall.

The footings appear to be 2" lower in front than rear of house. So it sloped 2" from back to front

Itsbasically a rectangle house. front and rear are 24' wide and sides are 56' long. At the rear the slab is 4" thick and at front it's 6". Slab is level
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I think he probably means it's 6" deep at one end, and 4" at the other.

As long as the top of the foundation is level and the walls plumb and where they are supposed to be, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Did the next higher bidder offer to build the house square, level and plumb, or was that the high bid?

Why did you let them pour the floor if you were concerned about the walls being out of level?

Pouring a slab to give you the same reveal on the basement walls doesn't make the walls level, what is going to happen when the 1st floor goes on top of those basement walls?

what does your contract spec for quality of work?
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The GC I hired included the foundation in the total bid. The plans detail all the foundation and detail and was fully approved by the City who issued the permit.

The GC is also doing all the framing and is saying he can fix it all with the framing.

I have doubts which is why I'm on here asking.

So what your saying is, it's not level. I can see it wouldn't be level according to grade but level according to basement floor??

The lot does slope towards the back.

I'm pissed but I haven't paid anything. I'm tempted to have them pull everything and start over
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