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Vinyl Siding Question----
had a customer who has a 15 year old home with wood siding.they are fading and split so he wants to replace it. i mentioned fiber cement.. he responded that "wood adds more value to the home" and thatn is why the builder used wood. what is a good response to his assertion that wood adds MORE value to a home than vimyl or Fiber cement? any thoughts? this is basically a sales type question.
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Trailer park boy
Trade: Remodeling
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
Faded and split siding sounds like a great value to me.
Maintenance is a big factor when selling vinyl or other over wood.
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----Quote:
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solar guy
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
wood is great if the HO wants to paint a lot more often. As we all know wood has issues these days largely in part IMO to plantation growing. I hesitate to use wood on any exterior application. To some vinyl looks cheap. It is also the lowest maintenence, lowest cost per sq ft installed.
The fiber cement products were designed to give the best of both worlds in that they hold paint longer than wood. Do not have the rot issues that wood has and can look almost identical to wood within limitations. ( The smooth looks best to me. You still get the rich looking finish that a painted siding has with much less trouble and future problems. Fiber cement is a much better value over wood any day in my opinion. Oh did I mention that it adds more perceived value to most than wood |
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Trade: framing/remodeling
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
Tell hi that 15 years ago fiber cement was a relatively untested, expensive technology. Now it is commonplace and highly tested. I would see if you could find some statistics to back this up. Might be some on the james hardie website.
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Trade: siding
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: west milford n.j.
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
why try to change his opinion?
Inform him of the maintenance issues. Install a high quality product,properly primed and installed, finally a high performance finish.There's really nothing that looks like real wood and some houses deserve it. jmo Last edited by Tom Struble; 05-16-2009 at 01:36 PM. |
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Trade: Carpentry
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Location: The Woodlands, Texas
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
The HO is right. When a house is assessed, a home with wood siding is worth more than a house with vinyl siding. Not sure if that is true with every state. Contrary to popular belief, vinyl siding is not maintenance free and also contrary to popular belief wood siding does not need to be painted but every 10-15 years if installed properly with a rainscreen and decent material. It sounds like you don't want to install wood? Not sure why you wouldn't want to because your selling a bigger job with much larger profit than cement board or vinyl. Doesn't make any sense to me.
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Donnie
Trade: remodeling
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
A home with fiber cement board (hardi siding) would last 10 times longer than wood or vinyl siding and it looks better, how could that deminish value? Just something to think about
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Trade: siding
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
how on earth do you come up with fc lasting 10x longer??
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Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kirkfield,Ontario, Canada
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
I would try to sell him Maybeck siding. Excellent product, pre-finished and I beleive carries a 20 yr warranty.
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Pro
Trade: siding
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: west milford n.j.
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
for that guarantee Maibec requires the rain-screen detail that Josh spoke of,which should be part of almost any cladding material install except maybe vinyl as it kind of has a built in rainscreen
Last edited by Tom Struble; 05-16-2009 at 06:15 PM. |
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Trade: windows-siding
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
how much per sq is this maibec siding at a supply house? does it come pained or stained?
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Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kirkfield,Ontario, Canada
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Re: Vinyl Siding Question----
No idea what it's going for today, that job was about 7yrs ago. But the product was awesome. Painted all sides, straight boards, not one couldn't be used. I pass by that building quite often, and it still looks great. I beleive that by the time you price in staining all sides yourself, you can convince the HO that it's the way to go. And get out of all that staining!
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