Uneven Ground Siding Question

buckeyeso2

Patrick

Thats what we do on rainy days. or if i run out. I have been running L bend on the bottom of a lot our walls to cover all the crap under the siding.

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

oldfrt

Sounds like a good alternative to using J-channel at the bottom of any panel.There's nothing I hate more than seeing the overuse of J to remedy the use of a shortened course of siding or around overhangs or ornamental details that are left for aesthetic purposes.

There's a technique I use sometimes for the bottom courses that seems to work well when wide starter can't be used.It's a little labor intensive,but the results look good:
I'll run regular starter and then the bottom half of a panel with nail slots punched in the top for movement,and proceed with another starter at the line I need above it,making sure it covers the nail slots.The width of the bottom panel needs to be adjusted so that the nailing the second starter doesn't go through the bottom panel.
This way you can control the amount of drop below the existing foundation or in cantilevered walls.It comes in handy over protruding stone foundations and when using vinyl shakes or claps in a stepped foundation.
The less J used ,the better the job will look!

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thesidingpro

I don't expect you to, you do carpentry.

I have at all times atleast 20 open half used rolls of coil. We use up left overs in random colors we don't need since the starter gets covered up.

So really it's free if think about.

I like bending it because every house is different.

Sometimes a 4" piece of starter works fine. Sometimes you need a 10" piece and a ramset to drop lower on the concrete.

It takes no time break down starter and even the new guy can do it.

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easy sider

Maybe you could bury the bottom of the siding and eliminate the starter all together on this one.

Patrick

Thats it? Only 20? lol the only thing I hate, is guaranteed as soon as i use up what left of a colored coil to make l bend or starter, im gonna get a call the next week for someone needed a piece of trim replaced in that color

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

shazamyman

nhaa i wish...id only be able to cover about 5 ft.....


just ghonna go with vertical soffit

buckeyeso2

thesidingpro

Well your right you don't have to....

If I'm dropping it 6" below the plywood onto the concrete I still like to grab some wood so I make my starter bigger. It's a lot easier to line it out while nailing into the wood. Once Have it where i want I can then just pop a couple ramsets into it and not worry about it moving....


I mainly use pvc coated trim coil. Not the cheap smooth stuff that has white on the back. The good stuff normally just gray on the back....So it's only one color.

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Tom M

Its is a good alternative. I would never buy oversized starter. Every job that has oversized fascia leaves strips of aluminum waste plus all the vinyl why spend more we dont get paid enough as it is. You got to be tricky sometimes I have some good ones. I use your method as well and agree 100% few jays = nicer job. Sloppy jays, wraps and seam layout make a house look real "plastic". Everything on the market is made not look like plastic yet cheesey installers put it anywhere anyhow. I looked at a roof leak this mourning, it turns out the siding is the problem. Only a little aluminum slipped under the gutter, a big gapping hole at the top of clogged gutters just pouring water in. Then Im looking at the window wraps and they look puffy so I look at the siding a little closer and find they installed vinyl over aluminum. But this the roofing and siding business so Im not all that surprised.