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gutrman
Trade: Gutters, Gutter Protection & Under Deck Systems
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ottawa
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Soffit And Fascia Pricing
Hi guys... First time poster, long time noser.
I own a gutter contracting business with my Father. I have been working with him for 12 years and he has been in the business for over 25 years. After letting me join him with the headaches last year we have been looking to expand our business. We are starting to get into the installation of soffit and fascia. We have done a few jobs and more or less just charged for time and materials. Not enough of course but we wanted to get the experience for us and the employees. Now that we are getting more calls to do this type of work I would like to have a better way to quote a job. At this time we charge per linear foot for the gutter depending on structure and height. Ex: House 8' high to the eaves = 2.50/ft. , House 9' high to the eaves = 2.60/ft... so on. Would I be able to charge in the same manner for soffit and fascia, and in the price is f-channel and J-channel included? I am sure I will have more questions as will you but it is a start. I have been reading for some time now and I really enjoy the great advice w/ humor that you guys give. I have a feeling that Grumpy will have good advice for me on this subject. Oh by the way, I would like to think that I have some expertise regarding gutters/spouting, so if you have any questions I would love to help. And yes my mind is always in the gutter... just ask my wife. gutrman |
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Custom Builder
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
Welcome Gut.
2.60 is a bit low for retail around here, we sub out at a little over 2. Soffits? you should be able to pin that to a LF rate easily, however, better watch out, sub wood can get in your pocket. Just a little trick, if you run across an eve that's pretty straight, but rides up and down a little, like so many do, try F on the fascia as well, but don't forget to price for it. Pop a line on the fascia and it really helps true it out. Bob
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Bah Humbug!
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
I will tell ya that the method for estimating anything to to determine yoru costs such as materials, equipment rental etc... then figure out your labor (how long will this take me to do and what am I worth?). lastly add in your overhead such as vehicles, phones, etc...
Add the two up and then add 30% for profit. After you have done it a few times you can come up with a per foot price. I pay my subs about $3 a foot just to cap fascia and another $2 for 1' soffit. This includes all materials. Every job is a little bit different even with subs, but these are minimums. |
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Pro
Trade: General construction and remodeling
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Waterloo, IA.
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
I dont know your area, but "generally" a starting price for standard soffit fascia install if you are the one doing it starts about $7/ft and this will cover typical 12-16" vinyl soffit. If bidding aluminum I go upto $10-12/ft cuz material is more and aluminum is ALOT more time consuming to install than vinyl...I know the aluminum/steel is alot better long term or spanning big widths with no droop, but I hate all things metal when it comes to siding related tasks!!
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gutrman
Trade: Gutters, Gutter Protection & Under Deck Systems
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ottawa
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
I dont know your area, but "generally" a starting price for standard soffit fascia install if you are the one doing it starts about $7/ft and this will cover typical 12-16" vinyl soffit.
Does the $7/ft cover the fascia also? BTW, thanks for all your help guys. |
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Pro
Trade: General construction and remodeling
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Waterloo, IA.
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
The $7 is for all material and labor for a complete soffit/fascia job since typically, if not always when installing vinyl/aluminum/steel soffit you have to cover the fascia as well.
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Bah Humbug!
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Re: Soffit And Fascia PricingQuote:
Don't forget to add if there is a freize board. It's funny because when someone tells me they want siding I assume they mean soffit and fascia as well. When someone tells my salesman they want siding he assumes they only want siding. The same thing is true about fascia or soffit. I had to explain to him that if someone tells you they want soffit they also mean fascia and freizeboard autmoatically it is highly unlikley they will want just soffit, and highly unlikley it will look good if we install just soffit. That was just me venting
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Trade: General construction and remodeling
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Re: Soffit And Fascia PricingQuote:
Some folks do things differently, that's for sure. Got a few stories of my own on that one
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Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
Never posted before was just hopin to pick someones brain. A friend of mine wants to sell me all the tools to do aluminum soffit and fascia. I have installed soffits and fascia on houses I have built for the last 12 years but always just charged by the hour. I have been looking for something new to get into I am just trying to figure out profitability for this type of work. I am trying to find out what guys are charging for 16"-20" soffit and fascia, also how about large porch coverings. Any input would be great
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Eater of sins.
Trade: Designer/Drafter Extrordinaire
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orange County, CA.
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
Start a new thread on this instead of using an old one.
You will get lots of responses to your query. Just trying to help? Andy. |
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Pro
Trade: Framer
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toledo Ohio
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
I did some storm damage almuminum fascia and i charged 9.50 per lf including the material. I perfer to do it from coil stock though it gives it alot nicer look imo
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Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
I just finished a house but I found it is cheaper to bend my own Fascia because alot of overhangs are not the same size,( I.E) this house had 7",
4 1/2",5" and around the gutters I left the old fascia on and bent 3" x 12' Plus if you buy fascia it is 10'. I bend a 1/2" tight and then a 1" and however high I need it. I am not wasting anything If I need a 7" piece I have to cut it down from 8" and around here 6" is $10.00 ea. I can buy a roll of 24" x 50' for $70.00
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Trade: siding
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Minnesota
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Re: Soffit And Fascia PricingQuote:
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
Jumbo I feel differently, I bend mine 1/2' roll over, I pinch the 1/2" in the brake after the first bend then I bend a 1" or sometimes a little wider depending on the application, I have had to bend 1 1/2" just to make it cover. I do mostly older houses and no two things are the same.
I do agree that if I am only doing a small job I buy it, for a whole house I make it and then I roll a pattern into the face, I have a tool for making brickmold casings and fascia, plus if the customer ever needs something agian they have to contact me because of the pattern I used.I don't do that many Soffit jobs but I do have more of a use for Coil stock. The job I just finished was for a Guy two doors up from me and it was one of the worst jobs because it never fails they don''t even appreciate when you give them a break on pricing, it started out that I did 32' front gable done and Paid. Then they asked if I would do two back gables (house has been added onto one roof rasied) I charged them $5.75 a foot for the front including Materials and Labor, I had 33' on one gable and 30' on another then they decided to do the rest of the house it took Me a week to get all done except for one gable because I had to tie a ladder to a second story gutter and straddle a aluminum walk plank from the roof to the ladder, there was 8' from the lower roof to the upper overhang which the lower roof was a 10"-12" picth even if I installed roof jacks, I still would not have reached it, so a Friend of mine help me set it up and I tied off to the walk plank with a safety strap(body harness if you will or fall arrestor) for roofing. but the person that has the house kept bugging me when I was going to get it done and ladders out of the yard. so it only took about an hour to do now three days later and still no pay I installed 154 1/2' of soffit and fascia.I see alot of guys are charging anywhere from $7-$12 a foot I only chraged $5/foot. |
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Trade: siding
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Location: Minnesota
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Re: Soffit And Fascia PricingQuote:
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Trade: roofing,siding,gutters,windows
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: VIRGINIA
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Re: Soffit And Fascia Pricing
For you guys that still haven't gotten th epricing thing down yet.......
Materials + Labor + Overhead + Profit = Tree fiddy a foot
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