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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.Quote:
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
Ha, one of the lines our instructor for VSI used was "just because your grand daddy showed your father to do it this way doesnt mean thats the right way to do it"
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
There are hacks and there are cheap un-educated homeowners. Who is to blame?? Most of the time we don't know.
Sometimes even educated homeowners still just care about when it gets done, how fast, and how cheap....after all it's just siding or just shingles.. |
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
Siding should be 80% sealing the building and 20% Cosmetics.
With that 20% the house should still look as damn good as any other house done right. I still see siding guys and rock guys who don't have any idea about keeping that positive lap throughout, whether it be paper or flashing. That's the first thing my new guys have to learn, and they won't do a damn thing else until they do. By far the most important thing for sealing a house. |
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
FINALLY someone who gets it. You can't keep water out with a little caulking. Paper is what keeps the moisture out.
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Last edited by Tom Struble; 05-04-2009 at 09:12 PM. |
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
BEST RULE OF THUMB TO TELL HO...
I can do it fast, cheap and good. You can now pick 2 out of 3 |
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.Quote:
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
Darn you loneframer! You pulled perfectly good siding off to expose OSB without feltpaper...
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
funny thing is that ive pull down vinyl with nothing behind it and the sheathing looked brand new
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
There was not much water damage to the sheathing in this case either, but it didn't prevent the water from rolling out of the gas fireplace. Of coarse, it only happened when it rained.
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
If you have OSB, you have moisture no matter what. Problem is, that the water is not on the wall....it is in the wall. OSB doesn't breathe and doesn't dry from the inside out.
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
with all the layers of waterproof glue in plywood id question its ability to ''breathe'' also. Maybe the reason with alot the osb problems [besides the crummy nail holding] are because of the shoddy workmanship seen in this thread.Which most likely are the result of a hurry up and get it done mindset
In those pic of Loneframers i think most of the problem was caused by a poor chimney cap,which really is the fireplace guys detail. Around here they use a galvanized sheet metal that rustout in a few years |
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.Quote:
Just a framing CARPENTERS view on the matter.
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Re: So-called "professional" Siders.
oh i definitely agree,theres a way that it should have been done and it wasnt,simple as that,you never know when your work is going to be removed by someone,and it dosnt really matter why, but if what you did wasnt right you look like the hack.Which i guess you are if you do work like that
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