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Old 06-10-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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Siding First Or Soffit First?


Ok so I have seen it done both ways over the years and from what I have always been able to sort out it is usually because the HO had one done first then the other not both at the same time. My question is, if I am stripping both soffit and siding which should go back up first? I was trained to put up the soffit first and then J to that but I want to know if that is the proper way to do it? Always looking to improve and offer better service to my customers.

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Old 06-10-2011, 11:27 PM   #2
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We always do soffit first then side to that.

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You don't "J" to your soffit along the eaves do you? You need to on gable ends, but along straight runs up under the eaves, we always finish into a dual undersill trim piece. We like the dual channel over the regular undersill or finish trim because it's a much firmer (and straighter) piece of channel. The end result is a nice clean straight line across the top of the siding.

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On a straight run, I run my siding up first than run soffit J over top of it. It looks much cleaner that way. On the gables I don't use soffit J I just bend a return and run my siding J up to the soffit which holds it in place
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I do it both ways just depending on how the top planel will come out . I like siding first if can , looks cleaner IMO. Got a house coming up to reside that was sided first, steel, now will have to just run electric shears along top planel to remove siding then new will just go over top with sill trim on it rather thentear the overhang off. If I have to cut the top lock off to do the top panel then the overhang gets done first.
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On a straight run, I run my siding up first than run soffit J over top of it. It looks much cleaner that way.
So,how to install the latest panel without Finish J-Channel ,Snap-lock Punch,clips......?
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finish j?is there really such a thing?
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finish j?is there really such a thing?
Good one Tom. That extra gap in the J is for caulk right.
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On a straight run, I run my siding up first than run soffit J over top of it. It looks much cleaner that way. On the gables I don't use soffit J I just bend a return and run my siding J up to the soffit which holds it in place
i usually do just an L shape in the gables too,then the siding j will rest directly on the soffit instead of back to back j and the gap you get when you do it
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Soffit j over vinyl? What do you do over the corners?...L cap and soffit just rests on top? Wouldn't that flap away in the breeze?
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yea the flappin scares the bats away
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Huh, ??

F-channel, no one uses it?

I always have,...I only use J-channel out on the ends of an adjacent overhang to finish it off, and give it a good boxed look.

I seen several replies, and see no mention of F-channel.

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Huh, ??

F-channel, no one uses it?

I always have,...I only use J-channel out on the ends of an adjacent overhang to finish it off, and give it a good boxed look.

I seen several replies, and see no mention of F-channel.

You boys baffle me sometimes,..I even fast forwarded to toms reply, thinking tom will surely mention it, nope.



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Very rarely ever use F channel , have not found that many times when it was really going to be of any advantage to me. J is easier and faster for me and cost almost half of F channel, aluminum, anyhow And that makes a differents on my profit margin and how much stays in my pocket .
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no i don't use it,i don't use vinyl soffit j if i can't get aluminum soffit chanel in the color i need i bend my own

this ia probably more of a regional thing that a this is better than that thing
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No f channel here either...with Tom on the aluminum j...only ever used vinyl soffit on a cpl prefab beauts (cough cough)
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Soffit j over vinyl? What do you do over the corners?...L cap and soffit just rests on top? Wouldn't that flap away in the breeze?
this is in the gable ends Sean the L shape goes on first then the soffit then siding j
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We use a combo f channel with a snap to receive a cornice trim. Certainteed makes it and so does crane and Mastic. It gives a nice look because it is 2.5 inches wide. How does the last row of siding expand and contract if you nail though it with your soffit j or f?
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no i don't use it,i don't use vinyl soffit j if i can't get aluminum soffit chanel in the color i need i bend my own

this ia probably more of a regional thing that a this is better than that thing
Definately regional, I can only picture those things in my head. Never seen any of them. Well maybe J channel, if that is the same thing as might be put on a exposed sheetrock edge.

Heck, I haven't ever seen a vinyl sided house.
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Heck, I haven't ever seen a vinyl sided house.
you just blew my mind Mark
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Good one Tom. That extra gap in the J is for caulk right.
Try this in Colorado.6am-30F, 1pm-95F.You can lose your job
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come on Gandalf he was just kidding there are more ways than 1 to do anything,just need to learn how to get the results you want

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