Warren

UHHHH? I think it may be because you made a distinction between framers and carpenters suggesting that a framer is less than a carpenter.

loneframer

So what is your opinion on framers? We already know that MJW is a REAL carpenter, in his own candy coated world. Fill us in, you with MJW or the framers?We'll be awaiting your reply.

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strathd

Shortly before I joined this site my computer crashed with 600 pics. And no I will not make that mistake again . However I am going out to take pics of my work this weekend and you will see what a (lowly ) framer can do. Will post early next week.
I look forward to seeing your work. Actually I'm looking very forward to it.
Please don't place no replacement window jobs. (unless they're PICTURE WINDOWS).

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Disgruntled citizen of North Mexico !!
(Formerly the USA)

Patrick

Im sure you will be here waiting, you have only been here 3 months, and have already made more than half the number of posts Ive made in 3 years

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

Patrick

why picture windows?

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

loneframer

You never answered the question. As for the number of posts, I work just as fast.

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DavidC

This is what happens when Nathan tweaks the HO filters and there is not enough to feed on.

Good Luck
Dave

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OK, rant if you must. For the love of Pete, use paragraphs and spell check.

strathd

No............ This is what happens when people get insulted...

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Disgruntled citizen of North Mexico !!
(Formerly the USA)

Warren

I gotta redo my profile. I didn't know that we were suppose to list all of our "specialties"
Mine will now read
General Contractor,Roofing,Siding,Windows,Drywall,Demoliti on,Interior finish Carpentry,Remodeling, and............FRAMING

Patrick

Why dont we all just go over to the painter forum and tell them that any monkey can paint, thats always fun

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

Patrick

Check mine out

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

Warren

Now I am insulted!!

MJW

Haha, I'll have to change mine to......

Alcoholic with an ATV addiction, who also does "some work". I watch TV sometimes also. GC's are good at that.

katoman

Here it is - seen lots of sh_t work done by 'framers' in the subdivisions. Are they carpenters? I don't think so. And once I trimmed a house that didn't have a square corner in it, cut roof, very complex. Well you couldn't get a playing card between any of their joints! Were those 'framers' carpenters? You bet your ass they were! So I think it depends on the man. In the end you will be judged and remembered by the quality of work you do. I do the best job possible every time, and if I don't feel proficient at it then I don't touch it. Or as my father taught me " if you can't do a proper job, then leave it for someone who can"

loneframer

So does that statement not apply to every trade, business and career on the face of the planet? Generalizations and stereotypes can be made across the board. People who frame houses and do assed up work are not framers. For those of us who are, generalizations and stereotypes are offensive.

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MJW

We got it.......I think

Framer=good (in your opinion)

or is it

Framer=God


Framers here slap houses up. When you talk of framing, siding, roofing, windows.....then that is carpentry not framing.

I've seen enough post card pics now.

jumbo

My pop told me years ago," brag all you want, it doesn't mean sh*t till someone else is just as impressed with you as you are". Gee, I wonder who this is pointed at??? In the end, siders will complain about the majority of carpenters they have to work behind, with good reason. But the few good framers I DO know, make my life much, much easier. God bless all the good carpenters (and siders too).

Gus Dering

I'm not looking for a pissing match with this post so keep that in mind If you take the time to read it. Ok?

I find some of these posts disturbing because there are signs of predetermined prejudiced ideas about groups of people.

I feel bad that there are tradesmen out there that cast a bad light on the rest of us. Its infuriating. I can't stand how the movies portray contractors as shifty characters for reasons larger than the perceived personal attack.

The bigger picture is what gets me. If someone has the tendency to stereotype one group of people because of what they do for a living then it seems like a chip shot to say they are inclined to do the same thing with all kinds of groups.

The time for breaking that behavior is long over due. Why can't we give people the benefit of the doubt that they are at least doing the very best they can with the tools they have at their disposal before we put them into some compartment of prejudice?

I say that can start right here with type casting a fellow tradesman because of what he chooses to call himself.
If that is possible then think of all the other places in our world that could use a para dime shift towards real enlightenment.

Yeah I'm steppin way out side the contractor box with this one but holy cow batman this thread reeks of small thinking.

Remember my opening statement before you hit that little button down there.

Csavage1

This was a post about siding and it turned into a carpenters dream. Do we remember what the carpenters dream was?

Something like flatter than a board

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loneframer

You arrogant little twit, I never said I was better than you or anybody else, although we are yet to see anything you have to offer other than offensive statements that are typically made by people with inferiority issues. I post pics of my jobs because I am proud of my work and accomplishments. Some people enjoy looking at other peoples handywork, some people don't, who ironicly are usually the people who have little to show in return. As I have previously stated, you haven't done anything to show the worth of your abrasive opinions. As for your closed-minded statement that being a framer is degrading, that is proof positive that you've never built anything of great complexity on any level.
For the record, I have done many roofing, siding, trimwork and cabinet jobs in all pricepoints over the last 25 years as well as major renovations and have done them all well. Am I a carpenter? Yes. Am I a framer? Absolutely.

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