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Old 12-05-2007, 07:28 AM   #1
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We're installing a pocket door.
Using regular 30" slick hollow core door and pocket hardware system from Home Depot.

What do we use for a handle?

I was thinking go no handle, but when door is closed it be easier to open with some sort of handle.

Any suggestions?

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Old 12-05-2007, 09:29 AM   #2
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Any good lumber supply center will carry a selection of pocket door handles for you in all finishes and set ups, locking or non locking. All it involves is notching the door where the hardware goes. You definitly need the hardware on a pocket door or like you said it's going to be a bear to open it.

I'd also stay far away from any Home Depot brand, look at Johnson, they are the leaders in this field and it will be well worth it in what you get.
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Any good lumber supply center will carry a selection of pocket door handles for you in all finishes and set ups, locking or non locking.
Boat supply houses also carry them....
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Yeah, but they will cost 3 times as much. You know how that goes if it's associate with a boat!
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Yeah, but they will cost 3 times as much. You know how that goes if it's associate with a boat!
I know all to well...I am also hit with the Corvette Tax...
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no different than the airplane tax LOL If ya wanna play then ya gotta pay
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Yeah, but they will cost 3 times as much. You know how that goes if it's associate with a boat!
BOAT = Break Out Another Thousand
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I'd also stay far away from any Home Depot brand, look at Johnson, they are the leaders in this field and it will be well worth it in what you get.
Johnson Hardware or, believe it or not ~ eBay.
The ones Johnson has are round and look cheap(nice hunk of white plastic there):

($20 each!)

The ones I got from eBay are square...all metal:

(about $15 each! from a store or online retailer.)


I bought 7 pulls from a guy on eBay for $15 total....only to discover the Mrs. wanted a different color ....so I bought 7 more from the same guy...same price (he was selling lots of 7, but I only needed 4).
All 14 pulls are brand new

I have 7 pulls in an oiled brass finish and couple of chrome ones leftover.


Prices are all over the place on these things, a little research will save you some dough.
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I should be more specific, I'm referring to Johnson's pocket door hardware as in the sliders and door components, not necessarily the latches. I have no idea what brand of those we use. The ones I've used look like the square ones you got off ebay. That's why I say with the right hardware all you need is to notch the door for installation, pretty fool proof with those like you are showing.

What I was talking about was staying away from cheap pocket door hardware to construct the actual pocket door system with. Johnson has the best stuff I have seen. Very solid, well thought out and easy to install, almost fool proof with their saw off the wood part of the system at the pre measured distances. This all makes sense if you have used their stuff before. They have it all worked out on their sliders, if you are installing a 30" door you just cut the wood part where it is marked at 30".
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Mike,
I have 0 issues with their pocket door kits...I got the hang of it after the second one...by the 4th, I was a seasoned pro .
They are easy enough to do IF you have done a proper rough before-hand
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Looked at the Johnson stuff.
It looks a whole lot better than what I was gonna get. Thanks for the tip ya'll.
The track and slider mechanisms just look like they're better made.
The other stuff I was looking at was from Stanley, I would of bought it had I not come to this site. Thanks
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That Stanely hardware is garbage....single track, rollers on same side, etc.


Spread the word on the Johnson stuff.


BTW....you can actually get the Johnson track at Big Box ...imagine that?
BUT....it is out-of-stock quite frequently.

Along with extra pulls, I have one extra of the pocket door kit....I bought an extra - just in case ...ya know?
They were so easy to install, even I didn't mess it up
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(about $15 each! from a store or online retailer.)
On hollow core doors, to cut these in, the stile is completely severed.
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On hollow core doors, to cut these in, the stile is completely severed.
Yes it is...but with the screw and metal there, works like a flinch plate....there will be no robes or other crap hanging on a pocket door
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You guys are a wealth of solid information......has anyone in Alberta seen a distributor of this product "Johnson"
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When trimming out, make sure the finish nails for the baseboard and casing on the pocket door frame are not too long.
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You guys are a wealth of solid information......has anyone in Alberta seen a distributor of this product "Johnson"
You can buy them(door kit) online at Johnson's website, Big Box of various colors, probably at lumber yards, etc ...I would not buy the round pulls as discussed earlier.
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ditto on the johnson hardware. i only use those tracks, get them from my local lumber yard. one thing i have done if the job allows the extra thickness is rip strips of 2x and screw to the johnson studs, it really helps stiffen the whole thing up. allows for longer nails/screws etc. and you cans also get electrical boxes in there. it makes the trim on the pocket edge stay straighter too, that is an area that tends to bow over time and then rub the door.

i hate pocket doors but most jobs these days, architects love putting them in. i see why they do it, but imo. they will have problems someday and taking the door off is a pain once its been trimmed
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