Hardi Siding Cons

jcalvin

I have heard alot of people complaining about hardi siding and the bad jobs you have seen over the years. I have recently, couple years, been exposed to the hardi siding and havne't seen any major probs myself. Someone posted that if you don't know what you are doing, it will look as time passes. The only thing I could see as a major prob is not leaving a caulking gap in the siding. I would like to hear what you vets have to say about it. I would like to know if there is something I am doing wrong on the install jobs I am picking up before its too late.

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Jason Whipple

All I can say is go to their web site for installation instructions and don't do anything different than what they say you can do with it. There are two options for butt joints in the field, caulk joint or moderate contact. Caulk joints on butt joints make this stuff look bad, don't do it.

I've worked with this material for almost ten years now and love it.

By the way it's spelled "Hardie"

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jcalvin

Hardie, sorry.

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rbsremodeling

I too love it and would not put anything else on a house and the pricing has gotten alot better on it too

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BattleRidge

I like it, it goes way fast and is simple. My biggest problem is I hate when you have waves i nthe wall and it makes gaps when you look up fom the bottom of the laps. Looks like ****.

reveivl

Never worked with this stuff before, it's happening next week. The term "moderate contact", that means that you put the pieces up touching, but not tight together? They don't specify the gauge or dimension of the joint flashing, any tips?

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ConstSvcs

We've been using 30# felt or 6" strips of Grace water barrier for high wind driven rain areas. We have been using more woodgrain than smooth. All prefinished. The wood grain is much more forgiving at the factory finished joints than the smooth. I think it's a fantastic product. We always fasten it with ring shank stainless in our mini coil guns. Best feature is the price. Where can you buy a pre-finished product with this durability for $ 158 + or - per square ?

Jason Whipple

Sorry, I missed this one. We use Tyvek for flashing at the butt ends. If you have some left over rolls or some cut offs now is the perfect time to use them up. Cut them into 6" sections and then cut them 6" long. By moderate contact they mean no pressure from butt to butt. Avoid face nailing the ends unless it is totally necessary for esthetic's.

By all means, carry this stuff on it's edge. If not you will end up with a lot of waste. It's a totally different mind set your carpenters will have to be in to handle this material. Many hate it because they can't get use to that fact alone.

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reveivl

Tks for the input, guys. It's kinda confirmation now, 'cos it's all done, but I used felt behind the butts, brought them up tight together with no pressure, did it all by myself with the siding gauge, (love that tool!). I'd do it again in a heartbeat, nice material, inexpensive, fast to apply. I used the painted (not primed) product, and the customer is very pleased.

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srb

Moisture content can change the length dramaticly.Original H-Plank is said to be manufactured wetter.The imitator's (plank)appears to be dryer in the manufacturing process.So,when it gets wet,it gets longer.dries on the wall shrinking leaving you starring at a 1/4" - 3/8" gap on your but.Keep it dry,and measure the bunk in morning.The original is allways better.Psst.Use similar colour alum.coil for flashing.See my website for more stupid pet tricks.

easy sider

There are issues with Hardie Cement siding such as nail blow out causing panels to fall off the wall, mold behind the siding and microscopic cracks allowing moisture penatration into the panel.

Other issues are heath problems to the installers that wont show up right away. Hardie has been sued over this.

The waranty for Hardie is a voucher for the problem panel with no labor or delivery cost included.

On older homes without proper footings adding all the weight of Hardie may cause problems.

The problems we have seen are mostly nail blow out and mold. Since Hardie just lays on top of each course dust and moisture can get behind the panel causing mold and mildew.

Jake Stevens

I think it's great that you are putting up the Hardie plank siding, it give us vinyl guys work down the road. Thanks

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Patrick

Jake, is it possible to install vinyl over the Hardi, Or are we going to have to strip it. Have you added "strip and dispose of hardi board" to your pricing sheets yet? How much should i charge per sq? I want to be on top of my game when it starts failing so i can corner the market

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The picture dont do justice to the problems. After 5 years the siding on the side of the dormers are a different color from the front. The siding has developed cracks in the bottom edge.

Patrick

is that actual HARDI brand?

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Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.